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Jordan Bachynski
At 7-feet, 2-inches, Jordan Bachynski, center, was a giant among his fellow Mormon missionaries during their mission in the Miami, Fla. area.
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downtownresident posted at 8:34 pm on Tue, Jul 31, 2012.
It's time for this propaganda piece ti die!
Leon Ceniceros posted at 12:40 pm on Sat, Jul 21, 2012.
I NOTICED THAT NOT ONE MORMON COMMENTER HAD ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF MORMON YOUNG HEALTHY MEN WERE .......DEFERRED FROM THE VIETNAM WAR "DRAFT".
THAT YOUNG, HEALTHY, CATHOLIC, BAPTIST, EPISCOPAL, ANGLICAN AND METHODIST ....MEN WERE DRAFTED IN PLACE OF THE...."MISSIONARIES".
HOW MANY OF THESE YOUNG "GENTILES"....DIED, BECAME P.O.W.s, WERE WOUNDED, MAIMED, LOST LIMBS OR THEIR EYESIGHT......BECAUSE THE YOUNG "BROTHERS" WERE DEFERRED TO GO ON A....."MISSION" ???
HOW MANY OF THESE YOUNG....."GENTILES"....HAVE THEIR NAMES ON THE VIETNAM WALL...........HOW MANY ???
Engaged Voter posted at 1:37 pm on Mon, Jul 16, 2012.
"Engaged Voter took the quote out of context,"
If I had a nickel for every time a religious nut used this lame excuse on me, I would be...well, a lot richer than I am now!
"But the decision was between me and the Lord"
Yes, the decision was between you and your imaginary friend...which means it was your decision.
"Christian values. If everyone were taught these values, and lived them, what a much better world this would be."
Actually, the world is much better now that Christianity is no longer forced on people using threats and violence. We've still got a long way to go, just look at the way your cult demonizes gays and degrades women!
But if you would like to see what a world would be like where Christianity rules over all, just do an internet search, and use the keywords "DARK AGES".
jacobugath posted at 7:30 pm on Sun, Jul 15, 2012.
Wow! I find it amazing that an article about some really good athletes who also want to serve the Lord would elicit such negative responses. And I failed to see where Jordan Bychinski was "whining" about how tough his mission was. Engaged Voter took the quote out of context, leaving out the part where Jordan mentioned how much he matured and learned from his experiences, and that he wouldn't trade his experiences for anything.
As a scholarship athlete myself I can relate to these young men's stories. I once had to make the decision of keeping my four year scholarship or going on a Mission. No one from the Church forced me to decide, in fact, most thought I would be better off to keep my scholarship. But the decision was between me and the Lord, and I chose the mission. I have been forever grateful. As Jordan mentioned, the experiences a missionary has, and the things they learn are things I wouldn't trade for anything in the world. It still remains the smartest decision I ever made. As for the scholarship, when I got home I went to another University, earned a scholarship there, graduated with honors, and then graduated from dental school. The Church has been nothing but a positive influence in my life. The programs it sponsors for young people trying to find their way in this life are the same programs that helped me make wise decisions as a youth, and helped me see the importance of living by good, moral, Christian values. If everyone were taught these values, and lived them, what a much better world this would be.
downtownresident posted at 10:05 am on Sun, Jul 15, 2012.
Leon,
Good observation.
How could any reasonable person vote for someone who has never had ANY normal human experiences.
This will be his "Bain".
Leon Ceniceros posted at 8:28 am on Sun, Jul 15, 2012.
LOOKS LIKE THOSE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR...."I AM MORMON"...TV ADS DIDN'T DO MUCH GOOD FROM THE....."COMMENTS".
NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNTIL EITHER.
VIETNAM VETS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME VOTING FOR MITT ROMNEY AS PRESIDENT WHICH ALSO CARRIES THE POSITION OF...."COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF" OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES. MITT "DODGED" THE DRAFT BY GOING ON A MISSION TO PARIS, FRANCE. SOMEONE HAD TO......"TAKE HIS PLACE"...DID THAT SOMEONE WHO PROBABLY (90%) WENT TO VIETNAM GET WOUNDED, HAS PTSD FROM THE WAR ???
OR MAYBE EVEN END UP AS A NAME ON THE VIETNAM WALL.
DURING THE VIETNAM ERA DRAFT....4 OUT OF EVERY 5 MORMON YOUNG MEN THAT WERE ELIGIBLE FOR THE DRAFT WERE........"DEFERRED DUE TO RELIGIOUS REASONS"........4 OUT OF 5.....WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF MORMON YOUNG MEN........NOT JUST A FEW HUNDRED. JUST AS IN MITT ROMNEY "DEFERRMENT" = SOMEONE ELSE HAD TO FILL THESE 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF DRAFT SLOTS THAT THESE MORMON YOUNG MEN WERE DEFERRED FROM.......JUST BECAUSE THEY HAPPENED TO BE CATHOLIC, PROTESTANT, AGNOSTIC OR JEWISH YOUNG MEN AND WERE NOT ALLOWED TO CLAIM A..........."RELIGIOUS DEFERRMENT"...LIKE THE MORMON YOUNG MEN WERE ALLOWED TO DO.
LOOK AT MITT ROMNEY'S 5 BIG STRAPPING, INTELLIGENT SONS = NOT A DAY OF MILITARY SERVICE AMOUNGST THEM.............NOT A DAY.
IF THE MORMON CHURCH WANTS RESPECT...THEY CAN GET IT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY = "EARN IT".
btbeme posted at 10:50 pm on Sat, Jul 14, 2012.
Last week a couple of missionaries knocked on my door and asked which religion we "regularly practiced". I was fed up - we live in a nice high-income neighborhood which seems to attract Mormon missionaries like a magnet - we get "tracted" about every two months.
I told them we were Aztec, and invited them to come back during the next full moon.
btbeme posted at 10:41 pm on Sat, Jul 14, 2012.
I am tired of reading about this cult and its members.
Last week, I was supposed to feel sorry for their mothers, who formed their own support group. Now, I am supposed to be concerned about their athletic futures.
Quit knocking on my door and go home. That solves both issues.
downtownresident posted at 8:33 pm on Sat, Jul 14, 2012.
DT,
You've never been in a Mormon temple, have you?
I have. I've seen the baptismal pools supported by solid gold oxen. The artwork is priceless, too. Either that, or the person who took us through the temple and pointed this out was lying. Would the Mormon church put gold plated bulls in their temple basements?
Billions!
JMJ posted at 6:45 pm on Sat, Jul 14, 2012.
I agree. Give two years to the military. Give back to our country.
samkat posted at 5:41 pm on Sat, Jul 14, 2012.
DT: I am inclined to believe the LDS church does not publish a complete list of its financial holdings. I actually side with downtown. You folks do have one of the most regimented organizations in the world. You are told where to go to church, the number of days and times you will attend, etc. Missionaries are pretty much obligated to to go on a mission. You folks are required to tithe a certain amount of your earnings or face the wrath of the church. You dare not criticize the church or face excommunication.
I am not knocking the young men in this article as they did what any LDS member is expected to do.
Most Mormons are republicans and I have yet to hear you folks demand the church reduce its tithe amount while at the same time, you are demanding lower state and federal taxes. I could go on and on but I am sure I will get scorched for my comments already.
PS: You folks could do 3 or 4 years in the military instead of a mission.
DT posted at 11:18 am on Sat, Jul 14, 2012.
downtownresident:
Calm down!
I'm sure our Lord heard those same complaints as he called disciples and Apostles and sent them out "unto all the Earth". Most Churches send missionaries of one kind or another out into the world. Thousands of young Baptists to 2-6 month missionary service assignments in and around the USA.
Your last accusation about "Billions of Dollars" is so patently ridiculous as to be
unworthy of comment. If you want to know the about the Mormon Churches finances, check this out: http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/church-financial-independence?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LDSNewsRoomTop15+%28RSS%3A+LDS+Newsroom%29
downtownresident posted at 2:13 pm on Fri, Jul 13, 2012.
So, normal people are supposed to change the way the live, bow down and make concessions to some cult who demands two years of every cult members lives be dediacted to recruiting new cult members??????
That's insane!!!!!
The Mormon church already has hordes of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in gold, art and real estate and they want more?????
Engaged Voter posted at 12:26 pm on Fri, Jul 13, 2012.
“Going on a mission is not an easy thing,” Bachynski said. “It’s not just putting basketball on hold, it’s putting life on hold. We don’t get to date. I only got to call my parents four times over two years."
Wow, was he forced to go?
I thought it was 100% voluntary.
And if that's the case, why whine about the consequences of your own voluntary personal decisions and choices?