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Faith, conflict and excommunication

Lawn Griffiths, Tribune Columnist

October 5, 2007 - 10:46PM , updated: November 7, 2007 - 9:29PM

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Mormons have called themselves “a peculiar people,” a group set apart and forged by the adversity of the church’s history and grounded by its distinct teachings.

Read Lawn Griffiths' Blog 'Beyond Belief'

Known for wholesome family life, close-knit support of each other, a model welfare system and detailed order in all they do, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints also have a natural desire to be accepted and to belong. The church works hard for legitimacy as a bona fide Christian faith. But detractors pore through the church’s considerable writings and cannot reconcile their findings with “accepted” or orthodox Christian tenets and practices.

Church leaders say they don’t need others to give them a Christian seal of approval.

The made-in-America church can’t seem to fully shake its polygamist past, and it raises eyebrows about secret temple rites and afterlife attainment of “exaltation” and “godhood” through full obedience on earth.

“The Excommunication of Lyndon Lamborn” could be the title of a movie coming soon to a theater near you.

The critics of Tribune articles about the Mesa man going public with his ouster from the church for apostasy have dismissed them as a gimmick to sell newspapers — and dismissed Lamborn as one isolated, disgruntled member out of 13 million Mormons. From the moment I first read Lamborn’s e-mails and then sat down and interviewed him, I recognized him as a highly educated, articulate and sincere man who had put his 49 years of life into trying to live the Mormon way. His church assignments across 30 years are unimpeachable, as a missionary, Boy Scout leader, teacher and more. The engineer and father of three doesn’t come across as strident or a publicity seeker, nor someone vindictive. He says he wanted to leave the church quietly through the stroke of authorities’ pens.

Unlike so many people who come to me dissatisfied with their own church, Lamborn, a fourth-generation Mormon, arrived equipped with a large body of written work, references for his investigation, and a solid narrative of his quest to find truth. He believes that claims of the church are refuted by evidence.

Lamborn’s stake president wrote him Sept. 2 that he intended to have bishops in the wards (eight in all) announce his excommunication for apostasy on Sept. 23. Lamborn believed that rare step was planned because, during a disciplinary council on Aug. 19 with 15 church leaders, “I was pretty much in your face with the brethren. ... I wouldn’t consent to any rules.” He was informed that even with excommunication, he could attend regular meetings and services, but could not “give a talk” and “offer a public prayer.” Lamborn said it made no sense that he couldn’t pray for his friends inside a chapel. He even suggested they could get a court injunction to “prevent me from coming because you have no authority over me.”

Those announcements to priesthood and Relief Society groups in wards were never made. I spoke with stake President R. James Molina two days before the scheduled announcement and told him that Lamborn had contacted the Tribune and was furious over the plan to make his excommunication public. That Sunday, Lamborn said he asked Molina about the change of plan. Molina told him he had been undecided all along about having the announcement read and that, with the Tribune article Sept. 23, any announcement was unnecessary because word would surely get around.

Molina chose not to tell the Tribune why he canceled, or delayed, the announcement.

So many of the more than 1,400 online comments made on two articles I wrote about Lamborn revolved around whether Mormons are able to freely investigate the church’s history and teachings and how much pressure there is to be loyal or unquestioning. Some wrote of being disciplined, of being warned against sharing concerns and doubts about the church with others, and of being excommunicated themselves. But a great many defended the church. An example is “James,” who said the Book of Mormon is “the plainest and purest message of the gospel of Jesus Christ ever written.” Unlike the Old and New Testaments, “there is something sweeter about the Book of Mormon,” he said. “As I have read it over the last 40 years, my life has been filled with joy because of it.”

Other said that true faith can remove all doubt. Other said Lamborn fell victim to the influence of heretical materials.

Lamborn said he believes that the church went into “damage control” when he first shared his doubts with his bishop and stake president. He revealed he had discussed those same concerns about church teachings with his five brothers, all of whom had gone on two-year church missions and were active in their wards. “The following week, all the bishops of my brothers had received a phone call, and each of my brothers got a visit from the 'men in black’ over the next 30 days,” he said. “They were each questioned about their beliefs.”

Many Mormons say that Lamborn could not have been easily sheltered about the church’s polygamist history as he had claimed.

“Polygamy is not hidden. ... Polygamy is discussed openly in the church, and it is in all of our history books,” wrote Jean White of Maricopa. “Many members can trace their heritage to polygamist homes.” She said during the early years of the church, a time of persecution, “there were many parentless children and widows who had lost children and mates. We were a hunted people at times.”

“We are not ashamed of our history,” White said. “When the government said it was outlawed, it was discontinued.”

Most of Lamborn’s friendships are with church members, relationships he wants to keep. “They know me and trust me and are tolerant of the fact that I may not believe the way they do and vice versa,” he said. He talks about “recovery from Mormonism” but says he has no immediate plans to embrace any other religion.

“I am sure the correct path will present itself to me in time,” he said.

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JV

Are any faithful Mormons going to step in here and refute the claims made above? Do most members of the LDS Church agree that material facts about their religion are obscured or withheld by church leaders?

Why do knowledgeable and faithful members of the LDS Church support church leaders in using this strategy?

-JV Suggest removal of this comment
October 6, 2007

Tu Tio Verde

Thanks, Hellmut. That's a great resource.

I'd also like to thank Lawn and Lyndon for starting this conversation. Suggest removal of this comment
October 6, 2007

Brad in QC

Good heavens. Such a disappointing article. How about a question answer article to Mr. Lamborn? Get to the point. Mr. Lamborn is upset with the leadership. Let's ask him if there are doctrines that he still believes in. If so, why? Here's one: Mr. Lamborn, do you believe that the LDS church has the priesthood as they describe it? You either do or don't. Then Mr. Molina, Joe Smith, and the rest of the Mormon church are wrong. If you do believe, then you made a mistake.

Lawn, let's ask Mr. Lamborn some provacative questions. People know church leaders make mistakes and offend others. Let's ask these offendees, "Yeah, but what about the core doctrine?" Quit protecting Mr. Lamborn. Suggest removal of this comment
October 7, 2007

Mayan Elephant

Hey QC Brad,

didnt that already happen? didnt those imperfect leaders with the perfect priesthood and perfect church call him into the perfect stake center for a court of love where they were able to interrogate him without mercy?

i suspect you want the notes of that event made public. as far as i can tell, Lamborn is not hiding his beliefs, though others on here have said they are forced to hide their feelings and beliefs when they go to church. Are you fine with that? are you ok sharing the chapel with Lincoln and GG? or, do you want the perfect priesthood to be used to boot them to the curb too?

This isnt just about the core doctrines, James et al have done well to argue the core doctrines along with the obscure nonsenses, or should i say, obscure NNS, where NNS was inscribed on a spittoon in the akkadian region of yemen?

it is unfortunate that the mormon church, a formidable community, is unable to humanely deal with its own diversity. I think the members have enormous capacity to serve and welcome lots of different people but the octogenarians at the helm have a firm grip on the tone and the money, while the middle managers have a frightening capacity to excuse and defend the NNS of those old lying leaders. Suggest removal of this comment
October 7, 2007

Girls Camp

When I was about 15 Sister Molina told us at a girl's camp meeting all about polygamy. She told us that it was so the women would have someone to take care of them as there was a shortage of men. I accepted it completely. Explaining to all my friends in school, why polygamy was O.K.
As I got older I realized "Wait a minute...why did they have so many children with all these women?" Then I felt disgusted. While this is acceptable to many, I couldn't get past it. I pictured these sweet men, taking these poor women to help them, and provide a home for them. I did not picture the man choosing one to bed every night. But I could not ignore it.
I asked my mother to explain it to me again. And she said "The Lord commanded it." I could not accept it. But now I see why so many do accept it, because LDS paint a very different picture of polygamy to the members.
I didn't even know of the polyandry or the young girls, and I still felt lied to. And that I had been fooled into accepting something without a full explanation of it. Young innocent girls don't stand a chance when the LDS are painting a pretty picture for them. They cannot see the other things. It took me till about 18 to realize.
I'm sorry, but I find the hiding of facts quite disturbing. Taking advantage of such innocence is un-acceptable. Suggest removal of this comment
October 7, 2007

Good one Joseph Smith!

Now if I ever get caught by the cops after robbing a bank I can use the old "The angel came at me a sword and made me do it" bit. If it worked for Smith, it can work for me! Suggest removal of this comment
October 7, 2007

Mayan Elephant

Good one,

i would not recommend your logic or comment as a defense for anything (see Washington County and Jeffs) It has proven to be a failed strategy. Suggest removal of this comment
October 7, 2007

db

for all you "discontented" still active mormons, why do you still attend the mormon church? why not go to a different church? why do you stay? Suggest removal of this comment
October 7, 2007

Mayan Elephant

db,

The reasons for attending are endless. Family Pressure, Traditions, embarrassment to admit having believed it all, habit, belief in some of the teachings and friendships are only a few of the reasons.

Another big reason is that those you consider discontent have often given years and thousands of dollars to the church. They are just as Mormon as you are and may be reluctant to give up what they have created due to the dishonesty of some of the leaders and the lack of charity of some of the members.

db, are discontented members welcome in your church? are you interested in purging the church of anyone without a temple recommend? why not purge the church of single people while you are at it? if a divorced person cannot work for the church education system because of their sin, perhaps they should be excommunicated and declared unfit to pray in front of other members? no? Suggest removal of this comment
October 7, 2007

Girls Camp

I do not attend meetings unless it is to spend time with my family, or see old friends. LDS faith is a way of life for its members, not something so easily pushed aside. Suggest removal of this comment
October 7, 2007
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