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Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:49 am | Updated: 4:28 pm, Mon Jan 14, 2013.

“Oh, the NHL lockout is over. And just when I had almost completely forgotten about hockey...”

“Sal Gomez (Letter, Jan. 6), you are correct except for one point. When money is forcibly taken from one person or group, and given to another person or group, it is no longer charity, moral obligation, or compassion driven. The Bible suggests we as individuals should help our fellow man, not that a governing body should force us to contribute to a “general fund” to distribute as it sees fit.”

“Define delusional; The Liberal belief that the men and women in the military and law enforcement, that have taken an oath to protect our Constitution, will disregard the 2nd Amendment and disarm the American public, which would include their own families!”

“If someone wants to purchase an assault weapon with a high capacity magazine, it’s their right under the guise of a well armed militia. On the other hand, we should also have body scanners at malls, grade schools, concerts, grocery stores, and public restrooms. That could fall under the guise of well-regulated, and create millions of jobs in the process, and the 2nd amendment could be our economic salvation. How are you going to pay for it? Assault weapons are not free, and neither should a body scan. Congress needs to move into the 21st century and leave barbarism to the mideast.”

“Why do progressives keep using the ‘C’ word? What is the opposite of progressive? Regressive. Use it, over and over again.”

“As I watch the rescue on HLN of two deer trapped on an icy pond near Waltham, Mass., I’m both impressed and inspired by the interagency cooperation and team work between the Fire, Police Departments and Animal Rescue League with their successful handling of a delicate situation. Maybe they’re the folks we need to send to Congress.”

“Is it not hypercritical for the news paper in New York that is printing gun owners names and addresses because they do not believe citizens should own guns for protection, to hire armed guards because of the backlash for their own protection?”

“Concerning the movie ‘Lincoln,’ Democrats don’t have to go back 200 yrs. to find something their President did for them. They have social security, medicare, medicaid, Obamacare, women’s rights, gay rights, immigration, Detroit is alive, Bin Laden is dead, and they had a surplus until ‘you know who’ turned it around. What do the republicans have to be proud of?”

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  • DonMey posted at 10:29 am on Mon, Jan 14, 2013.

    DonMey Posts: 265

    "Who violated the Constitution with an Executive Order? You just said they were legitimate functions of the office."

    The same way Congress has the authority to create laws. Just because they passed the law doesn't mean it is Constitutional. The mechanism is valid, but that doesn't mean the end-result is.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 7:50 am on Sun, Jan 13, 2013.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1980

    2nd venter: people who complain about government taxing them to help the poor ( charity ) are the kind of people who wouldn't give their Grandmother 50 cents.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 4:18 pm on Sat, Jan 12, 2013.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1980

    onerebel: I have never claimed that the GOP was always wrong.

    As for Obama, if you have read all of my postings you would have seen me say several times that I am not and Obama fan.

    I didn't think he deserved re-election but he was way way better than having his Royal Highness King Mittens as President.

    And, although I am not an Obama fan --- I am a fan of right and when Obama is right then he's right. I've called Obama wrong many times.

    But, I call him wrong because he is a traitor to the Progressive Cause.

    The only promises he kept was to the gays.

    He hasn't supported organized labor -- just took their money.
    He wouldn't even appear at a rally when labor had problems in Wisconsin and Michigan.

    To me, Obama is a somewhat liberal Republican calling himself a Democrat.
    He talked the liberal game until he got elected and then became a turncoat.
    This election all he had to do was point to King Mittens and ask if people really wanted a dumbazz like that.

     
  • onerebel posted at 3:00 pm on Sat, Jan 12, 2013.

    onerebel Posts: 443

    AZ Willie, why does the analogy of trying to reason with a Liberal is like trying to pick up the clean end of a dog dropping come to mind right now? By the way my mailbox actually gets more spam from Racist Liberals, that are probably payed for by the tax payers. As for the rumor Bush was trying to become King George, a link with facts please. I heard rumors Obama was the Antichrist, but I'm not giving him that much credit. Here is an idea I would like you to just let roll around in your head for while. Could it be remotely possible that YOUR wonderful President does not want to work with the GOP? Was telling the GOP to sit in the back of the bus reaching across the bus isle? What if Bush had said that to Democrats? I bet HE would have been called one of your Racist Conservatives huh. Could it also be remotely possible that the hundreds of Republican's that oppose the President could be right on even a few things? And the President could be wrong? I know the thought of Obama not being THE ONE that walks on water is a little hard to grasp right now so just Let the idea roll around and see if there could be a remote chance that the GOP is not ALWAYS wrong!

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 7:22 am on Sat, Jan 12, 2013.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1980

    onerebel: it looks like those insane emails I was getting from racist conservatives before the election found a fertile home in your mailbox.

    Executive Orders are NOT a violation of the Constitution.

    In the unusual event that Obama, or any other President, went insane and tried to issue an Executive Order banning guns --- there are legitimate means to remove him from office.

    As for banning Fox News --- well he should be given a medal for that
    [beam]

    Seriously though, the same would go for attempting to ban Fox News.

    I'm sure there is a method for Congress to overturn an Executive Order.

    And, in the event of Presidential insanity and an attempt to stage a coup, the military is generally Conservative and Republlcan ( at least at the top levels ) and they would not go along with it. There were rumors that Bush's people wanted to do just that so that he could stay President but top Army people quashed it.

    And using Executive Orders to bypass Congress is justified when Congress is dominated by the opposition party who have sworn to do everything in their power to make the President a failed President no matter what the cost. And it doesn't make any difference which party the Congress and President belong to. Any time there is such a situation, the use of Executive Orders is justified.

     
  • onerebel posted at 8:09 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.

    onerebel Posts: 443

    AZ Willie, did it ever occur to you that maybe it's not always someone else that's wrong? I did look at your link, and I said nothing about the number of Executive Orders Obama has done. What does scare me and should you, is just what DonMey is talking about, the obvious attempt to bypass congress and THE CONSTITUTION. So tell me AZ Willie, if Obama does do an Executive Order to ban guns against the will of Congress and the Constitution is that OK? What if he then finds that FOX NEWS is a danger to our country and bans them also? Sound crazy? So does messing with the 2nd Amendment yet he says he going to. The point is, ANY President or person that has too much power is a danger to all of us.
    "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."
    Thomas Jefferson

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 6:33 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1980

    DonMey, we often ( usually / maybe always ) don't know all the facts behind events and we never will.

    Who violated the Constitution with an Executive Order? You just said they were legitimate functions of the office.

    Obama certainly has ignored some laws such as Immigration laws --- but that is not the same as violating the Constitution.

    I'm not a big fan of EO'S but they have there use and sometimes I think Obama had to use EO'S just to try to get government business done. Because of the Republican Obstructionism he couldn't get many positions in Government filled so his only recourse was to Overrule the Republicans with an Executive Order.

    And, for the record, I'm not a big Obama fan. But right is right.

     
  • DonMey posted at 1:32 pm on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.

    DonMey Posts: 265

    AZWillie - I don't care how many Executive Orders a President issues. It is a legitimate power of the office. However, I do care about what they are used for. Bypassing Congress because they won't do what you want is not an appropriate use. Violating the Constitution with one Executive Order is infinitely worse than thousands of valid EOs.

     
  • Accuracy posted at 8:58 am on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.

    Accuracy Posts: 1988

    onerebel posted: “Bush messed up things yes there is no doubt, but this President has taken it to a new level. He has spent more in four years then ALL the other Presidents combined, including the first year of Bush.”

    According to the U.S. Treasury Department, the “spending facts” are:
    The National Debt was $5.7 trillion in 2001, and President George W. Bush ran up debt just under $4.9 trillion during his entire eight (8) years. The National Debt then stood at $10.6 trillion in 2009, and the national debt has increased by $5 trillion since President Barack Obama took office in 2009.

    Now, Obama blames the $16.4 trillion national debt on Congress.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 8:38 am on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1980

    onerebel, how come when you are proven wrong ( as I just proved you were wrong about Obama and his use of Executive Orders ), you can't just come back and admit you were wrong?

    Instead you just return and pretend no one ever presented the facts that proved you wrong.

    You just want to attack from a different direction.

    And in a month you will return spewing the same wrong information.

    " Liberals got a break the first four years" ... gimme a break ... on day one Republicans declared their one and only goal was to make Obama a one term President and they voted against EVERY thing he proposed and forced him to use Executive Orders for routine operations.

    As for Fast and Furious, I don't agree with a LOT of things Obama has done and not done. I didn't think he deserved re-election but he was a thousand times better than his Royal Highness King Mittens.

    I try not to let blind partisanship control my thinking.

    You appear to revel in it.

     
  • onerebel posted at 7:50 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.

    onerebel Posts: 443

    "Then came along this wonderful new President," Surely your not referring to Obama? Truth, if you are, your either being sarcastic or you've been tipping the bottle. You Liberals got a break the first four years when you were still blaming Bush for everything, but Obama has a track record now and it's tax and spend, spend, spend. Time to man up and face the facts!
    Az Willie, you say "Executive Orders which he was forced to issue by the Republicans who blocked all his efforts to govern." So why did he need his Executive power to block an investigation into the Fast and Furious Operation and how a FEDERAL AGENT was killed? Even Rachel Maddow From MSNBC did a unfavorable commentary about Obama using his Executive Powers. Can you tell me if a Republican President did this you would be OK with it? I wouldn't, and neither would you, and rightly so. It's time to realize most in Washington could care less about what we the people that put them there want. Just today CNN reported that Democrats are being told when a gun control vote comes down they ALL better vote with the President on this. Are they there to represent the President, or the voters that put them there? Bush messed up things yes there is no doubt, but this President has taken it to a new level. He has spent more in four years then ALL the other Presidents combined, including the first year of Bush. That's NOT the other guys fault, it's his and no matter who you blame we will all end up in big trouble!

     
  • truth posted at 4:45 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.

    truth Posts: 1002

    Well the new President saved the world, but the evil president friends want to blame him for needing more money to save the world. They all talk about the national debt but when Good President friends make suggestion that would save trillions they say NO we want to cut only what we want. They also have no problems purchasing almost all items manufactured in slave sweat shops that makes the evil 1% trillions of dollars. End of story.

     
  • truth posted at 4:44 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.

    truth Posts: 1002

    Once upon a time there was this evil and corrupt President who crashed the U.S. and world economy. After then realized the U.S. and world economy was heading for total disaster the evil President asked for $700 billion dollars because they knew if the world economy crashed it would take decades to recover. Then came along this wonderful new President, he also knew if the world economy crashed it would take decades to recover. Well the new President tried every thing he could to save the world economy but the evil Presidents friends did everything to try and stop him. They found out over the years it would take a miracle to save the world and the damage was even greater and it took even more than $700 billion to save the world.

     
  • Accuracy posted at 12:20 pm on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.

    Accuracy Posts: 1988

    And Franklin D. Roosevelt signed 3,522 Executive Orders during his twelve-year term of office.

    Barack Obama will start his second term as President of the United States on January 20, 2013. So what will his administration bring to the table when it comes to Executive Orders? Gun control to DISARM THE PEOPLE?

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 10:13 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1980

    onerebel: here are the FACTS about Obama's Executive Orders which he was forced to issue by the Republicans who blocked all his efforts to govern.

    I have included a link to my source at the end.

    If Obama issues the same number of Executive Orders during his second term as he did during the first term, he will still have issued less than George Bush the Lesser.

    GW Bush signed 291 executive orders during his eight-year term of office.
    Ronald Reagan signed 381 executive orders.
    As of August 2012 Barack Obama had signed 135 executive orders and taking office.

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/Barack-Obamas-Executive-Orders.htm

     
  • onerebel posted at 8:41 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    onerebel Posts: 443

    AZ Willie, insane claims are they? Do we NOT see a scary trend here with Obama's talk of bypassing congress and the Constitution thru executive orders? You lefties would BE SCREAMING if it was a Republican doing this, and rightly so. Correct me if I am wrong on this. I remember when I young growing up on the ranch, I asked my parents how the Nazi's could possibly get control of Germany? They told me the German people refused to believe the warning signs that were right there before their eyes, until it was too late. Then my dad went on to say they sure ended up paying a terrible price for their mistake. Now the question is will we also!

     
  • Accuracy posted at 6:38 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    Accuracy Posts: 1988

    VENT # 3: “Define delusional; The Liberal belief that the men and women in the military and law enforcement, that have taken an oath to protect our Constitution, will disregard the 2nd Amendment and disarm the American public, which would include their own families!”

    ---------------------------------------------

    Delusional is a persistent false psychotic belief – despite indisputable evidence to the contrary.

    President Obama has tasked Vice President Joe Biden with crafting gun control proposals by the end of January for both Congress and the White House to consider. The Obama Administration wants Congress to pass laws to tighten the control of guns and disregard the 2nd Amendment.

    High Noon “Sheriff Biden” says he will take action . . . even without Congress's say so.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 6:25 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1799

    DonMey: Sorry, but "truth" won't answer direct questions. We all know why...

     
  • DonMey posted at 5:03 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    DonMey Posts: 265

    Truth - You're forgetting that not only did Bush only spend half of that money and leave the rest for Obama, Obama looked at that 350 million and said he'd need about a trillion more.

    And then you guys try and claim Obama isn't responsible for that spending, because he managed to tack it onto a budget that was passed the year before.

     
  • truth posted at 4:30 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    truth Posts: 1002

    Twitt Romney's tax secret: 1500 % PROFIT using TARP funds to ship 25,000 Delphi jobs OVERSEAS.[sad][sad][sad][sad][sad][sad][sad][sad][sad][sad][sad][sad][sad]

     
  • truth posted at 4:11 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    truth Posts: 1002

    Why do the Republicans always forget the $700 billion TARP bailout in 2009 to keep the U.S. from falling into depression? Caused by GEORGE W. BUSH, a total failure for 8 years. House Republicans (91 of 108) , Senate Republicans (33 of 15 ), and YES Paul Ryan voted YES.

     
  • truth posted at 3:17 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    truth Posts: 1002

    [spam]

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 3:04 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1980

    3rd venter: before the election I was getting emails from CONSERVATIVES who claimed that Obama was going to do a military coup --- it was NOT liberals making those insane claims but RACIST CONSERVATIVES.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 3:02 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1980

    8th venter: apparently the Republicans are proud of obstructing all efforts to pull the country out of the Depression they caused.

     
  • mesateacher posted at 1:59 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    mesateacher Posts: 180

    Who do we have? Lincoln...
    And..civil rights during the 60's were promoted by...get ready...Republicans. Democrats, especially from the south opposed them.

    And you know who (Barry Obama) took the debt of the previous admin and made it far, far worse. $16 TRILLION now? He has spent more than all previous admins combined.

    And something else they can be proud of: Elizabeth Warren isn't one of them.

     
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