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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:14 pm | Updated: 11:58 am, Tue Jan 1, 2013.

“President Obama can set an example by disarming his secret service entourage and declare his upcoming taxpayer-funded Hawaiian holiday a gun-free vacation.”

“So many congressmen advocate arming teachers. I would support that just as soon as everyone in the halls of congress is armed to the teeth. What could go wrong with that?”

“Placing Joe Biden in charge of forming a gun research committee made up of legislators is like placing Dick Cheney, a la shotgun, in charge of a partridge hunt.”

“I find it interesting the president picked Joe Biden to work with the gun control issue. Wouldn’t Biden have more experience with the mental illness issue?”

“When someone uses a gun to kill, people want to get rid of all guns, but when someone uses a car to kill, they want to hurt the driver. Talk about a double standard! They need to outlaw cars as killing weapons not the maniacs driving them.”

“How ironic it is that rabid-right Republicans — such staunch defenders of the right for a fetus to become a baby — support the very instruments that cause the Newtown, Conn. babies to die such a horrible, painful death. Why is it that once the babies are born, the GOP turns its back on them?”

“I’m an officer for the state of Arizona and have been trained in the use of firearms. By law I’m allowed to conceal or open carry a weapon, up till now I seldom did. But from this point forward, I will, praying to God I would be in the right place and time to prevent or stop what happened on that day! Some question whether the general population should own, let alone carry a weapon on their person. This is how I feel: Is that person, carrying a weapon, concealed or not, in front of me in the checkout line of a store, properly trained in its use and function? Arizona had a two-day course approved by DPS for the concealed weapons permit. Arizona needs to bring that back not only for concealed carry, but for whoever purchases any weapon. How it could possibly work would be like this: To purchase a weapon, first, you would go to one of the state approved classes and get certified. Then take that certification to the gun store of your choice for purchase. I know the NRA would have a fit at this suggestion. For me personally, I would feel safer and more secure knowing that the man or woman standing in the checkout lane, with a pistol strapped on their hip, knew what to do with it.”

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  • truth posted at 2:29 pm on Sun, Dec 23, 2012.

    truth Posts: 806

    We need to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, the place to start is the republican voting list. According to the the FBI and The CIA the biggest threat of terrorism will come from the far right.

     
  • truth posted at 3:05 pm on Sun, Dec 23, 2012.

    truth Posts: 806

    "What do we do now?" Thats what demoriaized Republicans have been murmuring to each other since the GOP'S defeats in the presidential and Senate elections last week left the party a "smoking hole in the ground." "The election was in part a rejection of Republicans as it is preceived by a sizeable swath of the voting public." In response to changes, the party surrendered to "the most idological fragment of the conservative base"-the angry,conspiracy-minded,old white males of the Tea Party and the Right's "media-entertainment complex." Inside the cocoon of Fox News, talk radio, and the Drudge Report, conservatives talk only to each other, and "shut out dissenting voices." They thus convinced themselves that most Americans share there bitter hatred of Obama, in there conviction that socialist, immoral are overrunning this country. Fairly or not, the GOP is now preceived as the party of the rich-a party that believes cutting taxes of the wealthy is a solution to all that ails us. The Washington Post The Wall Street Journal Politico.com and Bloomberg.com

     
  • onerebel posted at 10:16 pm on Sun, Dec 23, 2012.

    onerebel Posts: 422

    Venter # 1 I'll agree with that plan.
    Venter # 6 speaking of mental illness! Republican's support the right to own arms that are protected by the Constitution that unfortunately like many things can be miss-used to take innocent lives. The difference is the Republican's DO NOT support the taking of innocent lives, unlike Many Democrats do with abortion!
    Venter # 7 makes sense to me. Even as a gun owner I would be willing to go along with a system that would be similar to a drivers license.

     
  • PatrioticPerson posted at 6:24 pm on Tue, Dec 25, 2012.

    PatrioticPerson Posts: 99

    Once again to get the proper legislation there would need to be COMPROMISE between the Left and the Right. One solution would be for the government to give EVERYONE a gun and the last man standing wins. Another would be to go into everyones homes and take all the guns/weapons away. How about a solution somewhere inbetween? Oh wait......that means Congress must agree on something.

    How about if some state, any state, take the initiative and come up with a logical way to address this issue? That way they could show the Feds that things can get ccomplished working together, something the Federal Government currently doesn't comprehend.

     
  • PatrioticPerson posted at 9:07 am on Wed, Dec 26, 2012.

    PatrioticPerson Posts: 99

    Truth,
    I have been searching and searching and cannot find "According to the the FBI and The CIA the biggest threat of terrorism will come from the far right.". Where did you get this information? Can you provide a link or source of your information? Surely you didn't just make this up did you? I guess I am just looking for the truth.

     
  • truth posted at 3:37 pm on Wed, Dec 26, 2012.

    truth Posts: 806

    PatrioticPerson, look under, local terrorist in U.S. coming from the right, or www. splcenter.org>get information>publications

     
  • PatrioticPerson posted at 4:20 pm on Wed, Dec 26, 2012.

    PatrioticPerson Posts: 99

    Truth,
    Very interesting reading. The report from the Southern Poverty Law Center covers a span from 7-1995 to 8-2012 identifying attacts related to "plots, conspiracies and racist rampages" most of which are by neo-nazi, militia groups, anti-Semitic Christian Identity, Klu Kluk Klan and the Army of God....just to name a few. It identifies attacks on FBI, IRS and many other government buildings. But I didn't see where the FBI or CIA specifically stated that the biggest terror threat comes from the far right. Is there a FBI or CIA report that you referenced?

     
  • truth posted at 4:53 pm on Wed, Dec 26, 2012.

    truth Posts: 806


    there are many articles on far right terrorist did you read them all?

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 8:58 am on Thu, Dec 27, 2012.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1917

    It is only logical that the greatest threat of terrorism comes from the far right.

    It is the right wingers who want to tell people what women can do with their own bodies.
    It is the right wingers who constantly accuse others of being ' communists, socialist, anarchists, fascists '.
    It is the right wingers who try to keep " undesireables " from voting.
    It is the right wingers who want to control people and what they do / don't do.
    Liberals have always advocated the live and let live philosophy.

    People who lust for control are more likely to use violent means than laid back liberals.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 8:01 pm on Thu, Dec 27, 2012.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    "truth" spreads anything BUT the truth. He DEMANDS proof from those he/she opposes, but when asked (quite nicely) about a source for the comment they wrote, "truth" balks.

    Don't worry "truth". When know you just make it up as you go. I hope YOU don't have any guns....

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 8:06 pm on Thu, Dec 27, 2012.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    AZ Willie: It exists on BOTH SIDES:

    http://www.rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/liberal-violence-five-names-you-should-know/

     
  • truth posted at 3:56 pm on Fri, Dec 28, 2012.

    truth Posts: 806

    If Masterrougue666 took one second and did a little research instead of running of at the mouth they could find the answer to their own question. Everything above was written in the New Yorker.com, MotherJones, Times.com, and The NYTimes.com, NationalReview.com. I notice the ones who run off at the mouth offer no proof for their comments.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 9:23 pm on Fri, Dec 28, 2012.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    What's the matter "truth", afraid to DIRECTLY ANSWER PatrioticPerson's post made at 4:20 pm on Wed, Dec 26, 2012?

    Obviously you are....

     
  • truth posted at 3:00 pm on Sat, Dec 29, 2012.

    truth Posts: 806

    For all Republicans who have to have someone change their diapers for them. Look up is the FBI [or use CIA] watching the far right for terrorist, there are so many WEB pages for you to choose from.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 10:00 pm on Sat, Dec 29, 2012.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    So, instead of proving what you stated is accurate with a simple web address, you want to be coy and expect others to find it after checking a multitude of websites?

    Yep, that's logical thinking! (Stated with extreme sarcasm.)

     
  • truth posted at 3:55 pm on Sun, Dec 30, 2012.

    truth Posts: 806

    Masterrogue, I gave you two web sites what more do you want, are you still chasing park cars? you know what a concussions will do.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 1:15 pm on Mon, Dec 31, 2012.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    OK, "truth", I'll spell it out for you, knowing full well what your answer will be before you give it. Yes, you did provide a website address. However, PatrioticPerson posted (at 4:20 pm on Wed, Dec 26, 2012) a DIRECT QUESTION:

    "But I didn't see where the FBI or CIA specifically stated that the biggest terror threat comes from the far right. Is there a FBI or CIA report that you referenced?"

    That is a request for SPECIFIC INFORMATION to help support YOUR PREVIOUS STATEMENTS. However, your "informative" reply was:

    "there are many articles on far right terrorist did you read them all?"

    What's the matter "truth", can't answer a SPECIFIC QUESTION? I've noticed that about Liberals. You ask them a specific question, and they balk, throw up a smoke screen, and then try juvenile and plebeian "insults" (Ineffective since the source is you). This is the THIRD TIME you've been asked for your source info. Want to win an argument? You need to provide PROOF other than the "I told you so" quip.

    So, show us what you state is informative and correct, IF YOU CAN!

     

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