The White House released a copy of President Barack Obama’s long-form Hawaii birth certificate, but attorneys Gary Kreep and Orly Taitz, who remain unconvinced that Obama was born in the United States, asked the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals on May 2 to revive a lawsuit challenging Obama’s citizenship that was dismissed by U.S. District Judge David Carter in late 2009.
On behalf of more than 40 plaintiffs, the attorneys told a three-judge panel at the federal appeals court that the long-form birth certificate is “not a true and correct image.” They want a forensic expert to examine the birth certificate released by Obama. “It’s very inventive computer art,” Taitz said. “We have a man who, whether it’s true or not, arguably is not a citizen or at least a naturally born citizen of the United States and is not eligible to serve,” Kreep said. “The only recourse for the people is the courts.”
With concern from the court about whether the latest claim was filed too late to be considered, it’s unclear how far their arguments will go. And it wasn’t immediately known when the judges would rule.
Jack Salley
Mesa
manini posted at 7:46 am on Sat, May 7, 2011.
About time someone put an end to this Bungler_In_Chief OBAMANATION's "Big_LIE" about being U.S. Constitutionally qualified to be U.S. Prez (which he is not, since the Constitution requires "NATURAL BORN U.S. PARENTS" WHICH HIS FATHER, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, SR. WAS NOT...he was a Kenyan citizen)...violating Article I, Section II of the U.S Constitution as early as 2008); & the FORGED Hawaii "Live Birth Certificate" he released last week, which is what the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has consented to try. The U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is doing what U.S. Supreme Court Thomas said that the U.S. Supreme Court FAILED to do in 2008 election in DEFENDING & INTERPRETING the terms & conditions of the U.S. Constitution...the NATURAL CiTIZEN requirement as applies to OBAMANATION.
Leon Ceniceros posted at 8:02 am on Sat, May 7, 2011.
A wonderful....A wonderful.....as Lawrence Welk always said.
While they are at it....how's about some.....DNA verification too ...skip the Y and the X chromozone counts for those two (B & M)....we all know that's a....."whole nuther story"........one look at Obama turning a nice shade of "green" while watching Osama getting ...."taken out"....answers "that" question.......lol
Accuracy posted at 8:19 am on Sat, May 7, 2011.
I can’t believe it, the East Valley Tribune publishing a Letters: “Obama birth case still moving through courts”. A hearing (before the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Monday, day after May Day) challenging the summary dismissal of a case heard two years ago questioning whether President Obama was born in Hawaii.
Wiley Drake v. Barack Obama: Is the case questioning whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States and is eligible to serve as president. Wiley Drake, a former vice presidential candidate in 2008 and former presidential candidate Alan Keyes were two of the 40 plaintiffs who refuse to drop the issue, and are pressing ahead with the case before the federal court hearing.
Among arguments – The birth record on Obama’s birth certificate was falsified. – Obama may have dual citizenship and the president's alleged use of multiple Social Security numbers.
Dale Whiting posted at 10:53 am on Sat, May 7, 2011.
Looks like manini, Leon Cenceros and Accuracy enjoy eating crow. Now they are setting themselves up to eat more!
"Natural Born Pareents" you say, manini. Care to go to Wikipedia and cut and past that portion? And don't get your hopes up too high. Even with an expert witness testifying that the "long form" looks fake, the State of Hawaii will back it up and the Ninth Circuit will be obliged to over rule the hired "expert witness."
Dual Citizenship? By running for elected office in Illinois, the President effectively renounced any dual citizenship. Renounciation is an accepted practice where dual citizenship exists. Heck, John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Panama might consider granting him dual citizenship!
Why don't you guys consider using some sort of sauce on your crow this time? If you find a good one, you might consider going into business.
Dale Whiting posted at 12:21 pm on Sat, May 7, 2011.
Happy May 7th out there, all of you resurrected Birthers. For those of you who missed our exhaustive discussion of this topic last time when we considered Arizona’s proposed Birther Baby Amendment, here we go again, and again, and again.
Article 1, section 2, does not address “manini’s” issue. In fact, there is no section 2 in Article 1! In it’s totality Article 1 says:
“All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”
Better luck next time, manini! The language you misquote is from Article 2, Section 1, fifth clause which says:
“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
Manini appears to deny President Obama his citizenship because his father was not a US Citizen. This is faulty logic. Even George Washington’s father was not a US citizen at the time of his son’s birth. Nor were the fathers of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, and even John Quincy Adams. Not until John Tyler [#10] did we have a US President Native born after 1788, i.e. whose father was a US Citizen at the time the constitution was ratified, i.e. a President born after 1788. Undoubtedly several of these fathers died before the constitution was ratified. But the question to be answered is not whether a President must have a father who is also a citizen before the child can be Native Born. Rather the question is whether the child was born in the USA!
The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1 says:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” If a person is born in the USA, he is a native born US citizen.
During the Congressional debate over the meaning of the foregoing language, “concerning children born in the United States to parents who are not U.S. citizens (and not foreign diplomats) [i.e. Barack’s Obama Jr. Case], three Senators, including Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lyman Trumbull, the author of the Civil Rights Act [of 1866], as well as President Andrew Johnson, asserted that both the Civil Rights Act [of 1866] and the Fourteenth Amendment [being debated] would confer citizenship on them at birth, and no Senator offered a contrary opinion.”
Conclusion
Based upon a court’s finding of fact that a person was born in any of the 50 states of the union, and provided it’s parents were not foreign diplomats [enjoying diplomatic immunity, nor back then a Native American], that person has citizenship conferred upon them at birth! And upon attaining the age of 35 years before taking office, they can become the President. Today, Native Americans are US citizens by birth, too. So are the children of illegal aliens, our Birther Babies.
For his acute analytical skills, manini gets added to my Neo-con list below the names of Leon and Accuracy. With only 104 posts, manani is an early arrival!
Leon Ceniceros posted at 1:13 am on Sun, May 8, 2011.
Lol....a 47 line "comment" on one of ..."two"...(not one but ...2) comments in defense of Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama or what ever name our "reluctant" Commander in Chief (the reports now coming out suggest a "military/CIA coup forced Obama's hand in the matter and on the day of the assault...Obama had to be plucked from the golf course by two burly Marines and forced to watch Osama bin Laden getting wasted...the photo shows him skulking in the corner all hunched over and turning a slight shade of green.....lol).............but going back to Obama's #1 .....DEFENDER ([wink]) and the latest ..........47 line "comment"............all I can say (or quote) is from Will Shakespeare's "Hamlet".............
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks".
k33j88 posted at 3:54 am on Sun, May 8, 2011.
14th amenment-------"subject to the jurisdiction thereof" These are the key words. 1.---born here 2.--- jurisdiction Plain and simple, requires no "Supreme Court Interpretation".
Dale Whiting posted at 6:54 am on Sun, May 8, 2011.
Yes, k33j88, Your point is well focused.
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
This means that from the day of Barack Obama Jr.s birth, had his mother and father abandoned him, he could have been picked up and taken into the care of the Juvenile Courts system [which has jurisdiction over such children] and given foster parents. Had his parents abandoned him, his mother being a US citizen and his father being here legally as a foreign student from Kenya, they could have been punished by the system, too. One Nation under God, with liberty and justise through the exercise of jurisdiction over all!
Thanks for sharing this thought with us all k33j88!