Haven’t Americans (especially Arizonans) done enough to appease the illegal alien amnesty activists (either homegrown or from California)? The millions of dollars spent to defend our state, cities, towns, counties and law enforcement agencies from the Obama administration, the ACLU, Hispanic plaintiffs and others from enforcing U.S. laws about illegal entry into the country.
How many American men and women since 1776 have died or been wounded for the Mexican flag? Yet we read story after story (and how many aren’t printed by our local liberal newspapers) about America-Loving students who are warned, sent home or suspended for wearing American Flag T-shirts or backpacks. One young boy in California was warned that he would be suspended if he continued having an American flag attached to his bicycle that he rode to school.
Is this the America that our founding fathers envisioned, an America of appeasement? Could George Washington, our first president, ever have envisioned that one day there would be an American president who would bow to the emperor of Japan and the king of Saudi Arabia? Or an American president who would go before the United Nations or around the world, apologizing for our great nation? If the signers of the Declaration of Independence could have envisioned a president who ruled by executive order they may have had second thoughts of declaring independence from one monarch when a home-grown one would one day appear in the Oval Office.
Leon Ceniceros
MESA
Leon Ceniceros posted at 11:47 am on Sun, Oct 21, 2012.
Dear "downtownresident" (whom ever you may be),
I would rather have a young person in America show their pride and love of Country by wearing and American flag tee-shirt, cap, or back pack than the opposite. Yes, it does go against Flag Etiquette, but it does not bring this Symbol of Our Great Nation into any disrespect.
ON THE OTHER HAND, SIR. YOU MAY WANT TO GO TO YOUTUBE AND TYPE INTO THE "SEARCH BOX"......."Illegal Aliens Supporters Desecrate US Flag.flv".
THIS VIDEO TAKEN ON JULY 31, 2010.....SHOWS ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA HISPANIC RIGHTS (THE SO-CALLED "RIGHT" OF MEXICANS AND OTHER LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS TO ILLEGALLY CROSS INTO ARIZONA IN THE DEAD OF NIGH USUALLY CARRYING 40LB BACK PACKS OF MARIJUANA, COCAINE, METH, HEROIN OR EVEN OPIUM) ACTIVISTS...DRAGGING AN AMERICAN FLAG ON THE DIRT (ALONG WITH AN ARIZONA STATE FLAGE)....SPRAY PAINTING THE FLAGS WITH GRAFFITTI AND OBSCENITIES AND THEN PLACING A ..............."TOILET SEAT COVER AND TOILET PAPER".........ON ............OLD GLORY.
WHY DIDN'T YOU MENTION THIS HORRIBLE ACT IN YOUR ......"COMMENT"....SIR?
THIS IS THE SAME......."OLD GLORY"....FLAG THAT WAS RAISED AT MOUNT SURIBACHI WHERE THOUSANDS OF MARINES LOST THEIR LIVES....THE VERY SAME FLAG......AS AN AMERICAN....WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING UP THE ANTI-SB1070 HISPANIC RIGHTS RALLY'S DESCECRATION OF OLD GLORY........WHY DIDN'T YOU ???
bubba posted at 1:48 pm on Sun, Oct 21, 2012.
Leon, what do you think Geo. Washington would think of ol' Dubya locking lips with this same Saudi king Obama bowed to? You're upset by a bow?
truth posted at 2:19 pm on Sun, Oct 21, 2012.
Leon, have you forgotten when Georg W. Bush took the hands of a Saudi Prince and walked him to his Cradford Texas house. That is called protocol. Have you forgotten that Ronald Reagan singned the last amnesty making 3 million illegals U.S. citizens.
onerebel posted at 8:49 pm on Sun, Oct 21, 2012.
100% right Leon! The Liberals will call you unpatriotic, then proceed to tell you to take down your American flag so you don't offend someone. Their new world order!
azlakerman posted at 9:50 pm on Sun, Oct 21, 2012.
You are one sick puppy Leon! You are a racist and when you mention our founding fathers, they would take you and your racist views and put you to to death. Remember GOD put us all on earth to love all of mankind! You must not follow the word of God who wants us to love all of mankind! Your racist beliefs are very disgusting !
bobunf posted at 11:23 pm on Sun, Oct 21, 2012.
I don't think Obama apologized to anybody, Leon, but I think that you do insult the founders of our nation. They were gentlemen and certainly understood that if you made a mistake and hurt someone, it was your duty to apologize and make amends.
They would tell you that it's common decency.
Oh, and the silliness about flags is simply a myth.
k33j88 posted at 5:26 am on Mon, Oct 22, 2012.
If the United States went to war with mexico, just how many illegals would fight for the flag and what it represents?
Arizona Willie posted at 7:35 am on Mon, Oct 22, 2012.
k333j88, I read an article quite awhile back ( sorry no link ) that claimed that when invading aliens are offered citizenship if they will renounce their Mexican citizenship -- they decline.
Supposedly that is one reason few invaders make any attempt to become legal.
They don't really WANT to BE Americans.
They are like prostitutes --- just in it for the money.
That is a large part of the reason hispanics have done very little assimilating into American culture and they remain apart and fly their Mexican flag ... they don't really want to be Americans and they believe their hispanic culture is superior to all others.
They are brave enough to risk the perils of illegal entry to our country but not brave enough to stand up and foment a revolution in their own country and throw out the corrupt economic and political systems where they can't make a decent living.
Engaged Voter posted at 10:44 am on Mon, Oct 22, 2012.
Who did Obama apologize to? Any support for that claim?
(I won't hold my breath)
Also, why is it bad for a black president to bow, but okay for a white president to kiss and hold hands - with the same person?
DonMey posted at 12:19 pm on Mon, Oct 22, 2012.
A shared kiss is between equals. A bow is to your betters. That's the difference. And remember how Obama tried to claim he didn't bow?
Yes, Reagan did pass Amnesty. WITH the condition that it never happen again, and WITH the condition that we actually enforce our immigration laws. Once the liberals got the Amensty they wanted, the promptly threw their concessions out the door and backtracked on the deal they made. And the result of Amnesty? A problem at least 10x bigger than what is was supposed to solve. No Amnesty. Period.
VofReason posted at 1:12 pm on Mon, Oct 22, 2012.
Anyone see the irony in AZlakerman's post? Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Bluepoet posted at 2:53 pm on Mon, Oct 22, 2012.
Another pointless diatribe, brought to us by the extreme right, who don't know the difference between a scapegoat and a principle.
The logic of Glenn Beck, the anecdotal evidence of Rush Limbaugh, with just a dash of Nationalism, disguised as Patriotism.
The politics of doom once more raises its ugly head. No suggestion of solution, nor hint of the rational. I'm just slightly ashamed I'm even responding...I may have to take a shower after hitting "post comment"...
We are all diminished, by the hatred of those who walk down the path of the absolute truth, and see only absolute lies.
samkat posted at 5:00 pm on Mon, Oct 22, 2012.
"Anyone see the irony in AZlakerman's post? Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Well said VOR. I was kind of wondering about him myself.
wdgnas posted at 5:31 am on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.
and one of the biggest republican supporters is the chamber of commerce that is against any kind of employer sanctions for hiring illegal immigrants.
JNelson posted at 9:33 am on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.
Bobunf....you said: "I don't think Obama apologized to anybody...." Let me list a few for you:
1. Ordered that the US flag NOT be flown over any US facility in Haiti to lower obvious signs of US presence there, although other major nations fly THEIR flags even though their contributions are minor by US standards. While not a direct statement of apology, it certainly demonstrates that Obama prefers to downgrade the US in an significant way.
2. In Washington, he apologized for Guantanamo, saying it reduces the "moral authority" of the US.
3. Obama apologized for "CIA mistakes".
4. Obama apologized for past US policies in the Americas, saying we've neglected to help them enough to make good progress in their own countries.
5. He apologized before the Turkish Parliament, explaining that the US is still working through the darkest periods of our history, mentioning slavery, segregation and treatment of American Indians.
6. In France, made apologies once more for Guantanamo.
7. Apologized for the "war on terror", saying we made a hasty decision and went off course.
8. Apologized at the G-20 Summit, claiming that his election would bring about a restoration of the USA in world standings.
9. Apologized to the Summit of the Americas, stating that under his new policies, the USA will acknowledge past errors.
10. Apologized to the entire Muslim world, saying the US has made mistakes and we're not perfect.
11. Apologized again to France, and included all of Europe, saying that the US has been arrogant, dismissive and even derisive.
I don't know about you, but it galls me to have our president travel around the world proclaiming how bad our country has been in the past, EVEN IF IT HAS! Seems to me it would have been far better to proclaim all the GOOD the US has done, like saving Europe and Asia from despots in WW 2, and Europe before that in WW 1, and paying for reconstruction of their countries after the last war, not to mention how the USA is always there first with the most when other countries suffer natural disasters, etc. How about expressing some PRIDE instead of groveling?
Engaged Voter posted at 2:26 pm on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.
"A shared kiss is between equals. A bow is to your betters. That's the difference."
Ah, so complete ignorance of cultural norms beyond your own...got it!
"Reagan did pass Amnesty. WITH the condition that it never happen again"
And you believed him...AAAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
Mike McClellan posted at 4:04 pm on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.
Leon is exactly right:
It's about time we stopped granting amnesty to employers caught with multiple illegal immigrants in their hire.
How many businesses in AZ have actually been punished under the employee sanction law?
One. And it was out of business by the time it was "sanctioned."
Leon, you oughta talk with the Dumbest Sheriff in America and his buddy in the County Attorney's office, asking them to actually apply the sanction law.
Nope. Too hard. Keep busting a few illegal landscapers and you're happy.
My Take posted at 1:27 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.
Ok Mr. Leon, what are you talking about in this letter? You do realize that immigration is down. No one is talking Amnesty. It seems as if anybody wants to take the moral route and do something positive in regards to immigration you Neo-Cons lose you’re minds. You Neo-Cons always inject “God” to justify your bias political views, but when put to the test where is God? Where are the ethics and morality that supposedly God teaches?
What you think about the Mexican flag doesn’t matter to me. Don’t know what world you live in but I have never had a problem wearing an American flag tee shirt, nor do I know of anyone who has ever had a problem wearing American flag apparel. I believe there is more to this so called story than you are letting on.
Bowing is a custom in Japan just so you know. Get it through your head there was no apology tour. You need to swallow your ego and admit that the Bush/Cheney administration went against the constitution when they invaded Iraq and jeopardized our alliances throughout the world. Apparently you are in denial that we need as many friends around the world as possible. That is what helps keep us safe. No one has to bow down to the U.S. We are a democracy not a kingdom. Obama understands this, but Romney doesn’t. If Romney becomes President you can bet he will start an unnecessary conflict somewhere, driving up our debt, ruining alliances again and putting our country especially our soldiers at risk. That will make you happy right?
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