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Posted: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:45 am

There exists an element of overly passionate wrong-thinking individuals, both in the state of Utah and here in Mesa, who have admitted their open hatred for Senate President Russell Pearce as well as SB 1070, which was lawfully passed by the Legislature and is now before the United States Supreme Court. They advance themselves as true enemies of this state.

These are cross-border (Utah, Arizona and Mexico) co-conspiratorial dreamers who openly promote their twisted desire to expand into Arizona the so-called "Utah Compact." They deliberately target and threaten Mesa to make a mean-spirited statement, partly because Sen. Pearce resides here, partly because of SB 1070 and all the greater good it will do for the citizens of Arizona, and therefore the United States of America, and not coincidentally because Mesa no longer tolerates the gangs of illegal hoodlums it used to have dangerously hanging out at all hours of the day and night on its street corners disrupting traffic, prostituting or selling drugs - otherwise presumedly presenting themselves as merely disadvantaged illegal "day laborers."

If Utah likes the presence of an illegal workforce, it ought to take good care of them and restrain them within its own state borders, "by any means necessary" as they say.

These anti-American individuals are advising Mesa to adopt this unholy compact. Honest Arizonans have no need for a compact tainted with human smuggling issues, illegal earnings remitted to Mexico, etc. It's a so-called dream act of a compact, which would essentially compromise the security of the rest of the United States, and promote an undeserving illegal workforce ahead of more deserving law-abiding taxpaying U.S. citizens. Any attempt to form such a compact will be immediately challenged in the federal courts.

Thom Trybus, Mesa

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10 comments:

  • Dale Whiting posted at 6:40 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    "overly passionate wrong-thinking individuals," "open hatred for Senate President Russell Pearce as well as SB 1070," "twisted desire," " threaten Mesa," " mean-spirited statement," "anti-American individuals," Thom, you wouldn't be a fear mongerer, would you?

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 7:39 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Leon Ceniceros Posts: 2555

    The...."MORMON CHURCH" is behind the...........UTAH COMPACT.

    They are looking at 20 MILLION MEXICAN ILLEGAL ALIENS ....and seeing ..."DOLLAR $IGN$".........if they can just convert 1-2 MILLION MEXICAN ILLEGAL ALIENS...........that will mean...........MILLION OF TITHING DOLLARS....going into the .....SALT LAKE CITY TEMPLE TREASURY.

    So what if ...."GENTILE"....American tax-payers have to......FOOT THE BILL....for these 20 Million Mexican Illegal Aliens in the form of...........SOCIAL SECURITY, OBAMA-CARE, WELFARE, HUD & SECTION-8 HOUSING, FOOD STAMPS, LOCAL SCHOOLING COSTS....and every other....AMERICAN TAX-PAYER FUNDED SOCIAL SERVICE.

    If the .........FATHER OF SB1070, ARIZONA SENATE PRESIDENT Russell Pearce is defeated by and overwhelming..........MORMON VOTE........this should tell the ....Arizona Republican Voter............that ....MITT ROMNEY....and ....JEFF FLAKE...as......MORMONS...........DO NOT DESERVE THEIR VOTE IN THE 2012 ELECTIONS.

    IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE......AMERICA TURNED INTO A.........MORMON-DOMINATED ...3RD WORLD ....WELFARE STATE..........VOTE FOR RUSSELL PEARCE TO RETAIN HIS SEAT........VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE...NOT YOUR CHURCH........VOTE AMERICAN....VOTE FOR RUSSELL PEARCE.

     
  • Accuracy posted at 9:51 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Accuracy Posts: 1928

    Late last year, a group called East Valley Patriots for American Values asked the Mesa City Council to endorse the so-called Utah Compact. After illegal immigration debate, a seven-member Mesa Human Relations Advisory Board unanimously voted May 25th to forward a modified version of the compact to the Mesa City Council.

    Mormon church leaders have expressed support for the Utah Compact, as a statement of principles meant to address, with moderation and civility in Utah.

    Even last month the National Immigration Law Center and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed suit against the state of Utah — to halt the Utah Illegal Immigration Enforcement Act (HB 497) — from going into effect. Why? Because the ACLU says it violates the Utah Compact.

    Now the city of Mesa is asked to adopt the modified version of the Utah Compact, and it too has stirred attention. Why? Because of its contrast with Arizona's Illegal Immigration Law (Senate Bill 1070) which is under U.S. Supreme Court review in Washington, D.C.

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 4:21 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    Leon and Accuracy,

    You guys are sick. If the Mormon Church is calling the shots on the Utah Compact and thereby running immigration policy both in Utah and in Arizona, then explain how the Architect of SB1070, Russell Pearce and one of his chief defenders, Linda Turley-Hansen are both Mormons, too?

    No, my friends. Immigration reform is a hotly contested idea. The difference is that many [but not all] Mormons have established close personal relationships with Hispanics and from those relationships have developed something you neo-con fear mongers cannot comprehend, Christ like compassion for all of His Children.

    This compassion does not mean we have nothing to be wary of. There are good guys and bad guys in every segement of society. Some Hispanics are trading MJ for guns and are massacring tens of thousands of their fellow human beings. But that does not mean we need to treat all like all were the same.

    As a Christian yourself, Accuracy, you ought to know better. But you don't. I'll continue praying for your soul, good brother.

     
  • OldLehiLady posted at 6:34 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    OldLehiLady Posts: 47

    My, oh my, I haven't checked EVT in too long.

    When I first read about the Utah Compact I shook my head. What a totally stupid idea. Or at least it's stupid to those of us who believe in obedience to the law and don't want to be suckered into supporting people who break one law after another with never a second thought.

    I realized the Compact was probably the brainstorm of large business owners who prefer not to have to pay the going wage and benefits. This leaves them extra money to put in the plate of whatever church while also allowing them to feel Christian for helping the poor.

    That the churches would buy into such a scheme tells me everything I need to know about them. Whatever it takes to get more money and more members is good with them.

    Once upon a time the churches provided a moral foundation and encouraged obedience to the laws of man as well as the higher laws. I guess that time is long gone.

     
  • Accuracy posted at 7:18 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Accuracy Posts: 1928

    Something “Captain Neo-Con” cannot understand . . . The Utah Compact is a document endorsed by political, business and religious leaders in Utah that is intended to set guidelines for the state's immigration debate.

    And as I wrote: “Mormon church leaders have expressed support for the Utah Compact, as a statement of principles meant to address, with moderation and civility in Utah.”

    Not in Arizona . . In Utah. And no way are the Mormon church leaders calling the shots on the Utah Compact in Arizona.

    Just like a Communist Liberal, Dale Whiting tends to be skeptical of everyone that he thinks he can label as a “Neo-Con”.

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 7:55 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    The Utah Compact is the closest thing to comprehensive immigration reform spoken west fo the rockies since John McCain switched from version 1.0 to 2.0. And it makes more sense than does SB1070.

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 12:29 pm on Thu, Jun 9, 2011.

    Leon Ceniceros Posts: 2555

    The only thing the ...UTAH COMPACT...does is to put more ......

    DOLLARS IN THE ......"THITHE" BOX...............[wink]

     
  • samkat posted at 5:45 pm on Thu, Jun 9, 2011.

    samkat Posts: 1165

    Dale: Whether you like it or not, the Utah Compact still violates federal law and as such should be contested by the feds. Even though you would like to protect the illegals, in addition to breaking federal law, they are here illegally. Now, if you take into account that probably 99% of them are using fraudulent or stolen identity, they also have created a felony offense. Just the other day, an individual in Indiana contacted the Mesa police and busted the illegal here who was using his identity and caused him to be in hot water with the IRS for unpaid taxes. Now, if they are using federal documents obtained illegally they have a federal felony as well. All males who entered the country between the ages of 18 and 26 (or came across the border before the age of 18) who have not registered with the Selective Service also have broken federal law and can be fined up to $250,000 and be confined for up to 5 years. these individuals are also ineligible to apply for citizenship as a result of their failure to register. Check it out yourself if you doubt me. Go to any post office or go online to the Selective Service to verify my comments. Of course you amnesty lovers would waive all of the offenses even though an American citizen would not be extended the same courtesy for breaking the law.

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 8:30 am on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    samkat

    By saying "the Utah Compact still violates federal law and as such should be contested by the feds," are you predicting a contest or are you espousing a point of view that this action ought to be untaken by the feds? There is a difference you know. And not presecuting when prosecution can be brought is called presecutorial discretion, often politically or economically or diplomatically motivated.

    "you amnesty lovers would waive all of the offenses even though an American citizen would not be extended the same courtesy for breaking the law." "Amnesty" is your choice of words, not mine. The notion is that those who do nothing more than come here illegally and do not engage in any additional illegal activities other than being here to live and work will pay a price, not time in jail or deportation, but a price in dollars which gives others incentives to immigrate through proper channels. Those willing to pay that higher price do so or leave.

    Did you catch today's article about comprehensive immigration reform sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce?

     

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