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Posted: Wednesday, February 9, 2011 8:00 am

I am so happy that politicians in our state are finally doing things to help our economy and encourage growth in Arizona's cities. Lets review:

SB 1334: allowing hunting in city limits - We can finally take out our shotguns and hunting bows and shoot the roof rats and the many roaming bull moose we have in the middle of downtown Mesa (one is drinking from my pool as we speak).

SB 1433: state can repeal federal laws - Congratulations! We can change our official name to the United State of Arizona, establish diplomatic relations with Egypt and print our own shiny coins with a picture of Jan Brewer on them. (We needed a bill to finally secede from the United States).

SB 1339: Getting rid of safety regulations and environmental laws for private businesses and homeowners - I always hated having the "requirements" of those silly pool gates.

And finally, SB 1352: Eliminate all photo radar - Get rid of those pesky photo radars in school zones (personally as I am speeding through a school zone, whipping left and right to avoid those little people on my way to the bar, those camera flashes annoy me).

Our elected officials are finally getting things done that will help our state grow! The good politicians are in! Viva La United State of Arizona!

Frank Piccioli, Mesa

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7 comments:

  • abimopectore posted at 8:15 pm on Thu, Feb 10, 2011.

    abimopectore Posts: 168

    kerMingle,

    "SB 1433: state can repeal federal laws - woot. In case you didn't know, we are a republic where the states are entities in their own right."

    You need to brush up on your history. The states are not entities that can act as if they were independent from the federal government when attempting to ignore federal laws. States that have proceeded to act in such manner by producing legislation that promotes the nullification of federal laws have been repeatedly corrected by the Supreme Court of the United States. For your information, nullification is a legal theory that has been repeatedly shot down by the Supreme Court of the United States with the cases that have come before it.

    If you were more well read you'd realize that James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, states something that doesn't support the theory of nullification as you're promoting it from his own writing:

    A political system which does not contain an effective provision for a peaceable decision of all controversies arising within itself, would be a Govt. in name only. Such a provision is obviously essential; and it is equally obvious that it cannot be either peaceable or effective by making every part an authoritative umpire. The final appeal in such cases must be to the authority of the whole, not to that of the parts separately and independently. This was the view taken of the subject, whilst the Constitution was under the consideration of the people. It was this view of it which dictated the clause declaring that the Constitution & laws of the U. S. should be the supreme law of the Land, anything in the constn or laws of any of the States to the contrary notwithstanding.

    You can read this above statement here:
    http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a6_2s43.html

    Historically, there's never been a case where nullification has been upheld by this country.

    The problem with laws like the ones above and the attitudes demonstrated by folks who selectively choose only portions of the Constitution to fit their theories is that they don't acknowledge the WHOLE document and forget that processes have been established to voice their grievances.

    What you're not understanding is that the states do not have the power to nullify federal law as you're implying. There are proper channels by which complaints should be addressed and not through state laws that will most likely be thrown out when they are challenged within the courts. The onus is on our "federally" elected officials, meaning the Congress which are the members of the House of Representatives and the members of the Senate which are elected by the people from each state. This is where the change must come from and not our elected state government. The Supreme Court of the United States is the final adjudicator if these laws are challenged and determines whether the changes advocated by the Congress and signed by the President or overridden by Congress are constitutional or not. The people can impact the make up of Congress by voting for these federally elected representatives in elections. If the states FEEL threatened then they need to bring this to the attention of these federally elected officials or vote them OUT if they're not representing the state correctly. Any appeal to nullification is a wasted exercise unless you're advocating something more like throwing the Constitution out the door. It appears your statement contradicts your supposed love for the Constitution or you have issues understanding the WHOLE document.

     
  • kerMingle posted at 7:14 pm on Thu, Feb 10, 2011.

    kerMingle Posts: 2


    SB 1334: allowing hunting in city limits - not all parts of Arizona are residential. I know people who have major issues with verment. Grow and use your brain.
    SB 1433: state can repeal federal laws - woot. In case you didn't know, we are a republic where the states are entities in their own right. This is the single most important movement of our lives, the battle between the rights of the individual state versus a monster federal government. Being that we are free men and women, why do we need a government to tell us what is the definition of happiness. Technically, the federal government overstepped it's right allotted by the constitution. The supreme court won't even hear it because they are too afraid. The state of Arizona is simply exerting the rights afforded them by the Constitution which form this great nation. Do some reading and you will see.
    SB 1339: Getting rid of safety regulations and environmental laws for private businesses and homeowners - eghh ... I have a hard time justifying this one
    And finally, SB 1352: Eliminate all photo radar - hello!! I won't even go into why this is illegal ... This is nothing but a tax that private companies are profitting off. Face then truth, we learn where they are ... Slow down until past and then speed back up.

    However posted the first comment ... It seems to me you absolutely no understanding of the concept of liberty; you have been fooled into believingnthat man has no ability to govern oneself. It seems you don't understand that the this country has become exactly that which our forefathers risked all to fight for. You seem to not understand that we have become what England was ... A system of government designed to benefit those who have power and money. If you are not one of these profiting, you are a fool for supporting them. If you are one of those profiting ... Shame on you.

     
  • EmperorSmith posted at 8:00 pm on Wed, Feb 9, 2011.

    EmperorSmith Posts: 774

    Dale point out the Neocons I want to know.

     
  • EmperorSmith posted at 7:58 pm on Wed, Feb 9, 2011.

    EmperorSmith Posts: 774

    the school zone, I have never seen anyone not slow to 15. Maybe it is because I live in blue collar neighborhood and they might care about there fellow citizens.

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 6:37 pm on Wed, Feb 9, 2011.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    Frank,

    I enjoyed reading your letter. Sarcasm is hard to answer. Let's see what our Neo-cons can do with your piece!

     
  • Cerulean posted at 3:28 pm on Wed, Feb 9, 2011.

    Cerulean Posts: 1385

    Good points. [smile]

     
  • abimopectore posted at 8:45 am on Wed, Feb 9, 2011.

    abimopectore Posts: 168

    Touché!

     
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