Could it be there is a politico agenda regards the President’s White House ‘private’ swearing in, Sunday the 20th, and it not being held at the Capitol? The Constitution dictates the President is to be sworn in on the 20th of January which falls on a Sunday this year. Since there is to be no connection between “church” & “state”, could it be the public ceremony at the Capitol, planned for the 21st, Martin Luther King Day, is part of a hidden agenda? Sure smells that way.
Barry Jones
Queen Creek
openureyes posted at 10:40 am on Fri, Jan 18, 2013.
You might check your upper lip for the source of that smell, Mr. Jones. The only agenda here is yours.
Arizona Willie posted at 11:04 am on Fri, Jan 18, 2013.
openureyes: to the right wingers NOTHING Obama does is right.
If he has a swearing in ceremony -- he's wrong
if he doesn't have a swearing in ceremony -- he would be wrong
if he has a private ceremony that COMPLIES WITH THE LAW on Sunday and has it private so as not to interfere with all the Sky Daddy Worship on Sunday --- he's wrong
if he also has a public swearing in to satisfy the political junkies on Monday -- he's wrong
Unfortunately the Constitution specified an EXACT day, the 20th of January without regard to Sky Daddy ceremonies === but that is Obama's fault too somehow in the right wingers view.
Seems like having the swearing in date specified in a manner in which it would fall on Sunday sometimes is further proof that the Founding Fathers intended to keep Church and State separate because they IGNORED the conflict.
DonMey posted at 11:14 am on Fri, Jan 18, 2013.
No. It is a precedent to hold it on a weekday. Personally, I would have thought a weekend day would be perfect, but I guess there are logistical concerns, such as mass transit schedules, OT pay, etc.
Bluepoet posted at 11:16 am on Fri, Jan 18, 2013.
Barry, haven't you heard? It's really a coronation, and the Queen of Hearts will scream, "Off with their heads!"
But, don't worry, Barry...just remain at the tea party table, with the Mad Hatter, and you'll be fine...
Agenda, indeed--troll...
openureyes posted at 11:22 am on Fri, Jan 18, 2013.
Arizona Willie - I'd like to think your comments apply only to "extreme" right wingers, but sadly the distinction blurs more every day.
Accuracy posted at 11:50 am on Fri, Jan 18, 2013.
Barry Jones’ question: “Could it be there is a politico agenda regards the President’s White House ‘private’ swearing in, Sunday the 20th, and it not being held at the Capitol?”
According to the Constitution, the inauguration of the president of the United States takes place during the commencement of a new term of a president of the United States.
President Barack Obama's second term begins noon on Jan. 20 – and this year that falls on a Sunday. Therefore, before President Obama is sworn in at the U.S. Capitol, he will take the oath of office during a private ceremony at the White House, Jun. 20 – it will be followed by the public swearing-in at the Capitol the next day, Jan. 21.
President Obama plans to use a Bible that belonged to the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. as he takes his oath of office. Martin Luther King Jr. Day also falls on Jan. 21 . . . something many believe is an appropriate coincidence.
JMJ posted at 8:13 pm on Fri, Jan 18, 2013.
Yes, everything is a conspiracy.
You have too much time on your hands, Barry. Isn't 'Barry' what Barack Obama preferred at Harvard? Barry. Don't look now. But, I, think, your, name, is, a....CONSPIRACY!
bubba posted at 9:24 pm on Fri, Jan 18, 2013.
JMJ: LOL... And Eisenhower went by "Ike".
Another conspiracy !!
Rich posted at 6:08 am on Sat, Jan 19, 2013.
Agenda? Conspiracy maybe? Not really. The system is just deteriorating. The government extorts your payments to private companies, it is supposed to pass NO LAWS about arms, and how many did the President propose this week? No Barry, it's not an agenda, it doesn't make that much sense. It is simply a system that has be exploited so long, it is getting sloppy, and riddled with the unintended consequences of 1000s of laws and rules that didn't even make sense when they were passed.
Bingo6 posted at 7:30 am on Sat, Jan 19, 2013.
Hey Barry did you and Leon drink from the same bottle?
Why! Did you know that Barack is left handed Too?
Arizona Willie posted at 8:50 am on Sat, Jan 19, 2013.
Bingo6: Did you ever notice how many actors and other successful people are left-handed?
Just for grins, watch the actors on your favorite shows and keep track of how many of whom are left-handed… You'll be surprised.
I decided this is because left-handed people approach things from a different angle both mentally and physically.
I noticed that it applies not only to actors, but also to politicians and often businesspeople. When you see them being interviewed on TV, try to watch to see which hand they use. I was amazed at how many left-handers there are.
Arizona Willie posted at 8:51 am on Sat, Jan 19, 2013.
Arrggh, darn Dragon speech program. " Whom " in second paragraph should be " them " and I didn't catch it.
chatmandu002 posted at 9:47 am on Sat, Jan 19, 2013.
No matter how or why Obama is sworn in, it's still going to be a long, long 4 years.
Irons1 posted at 10:20 am on Sat, Jan 19, 2013.
It would have been even longer if Romney had been elected
sdjtaz posted at 12:25 pm on Sat, Jan 19, 2013.
This letter is a perfect example of just how crazy the far right have become. Once upon a time, being conservative meant that you were fiscally conservative and socially liberal. These days, it means that you're paranoid and think that everyone is trying to get one over. This is why I've lost respect for the far right. Unfortunately, the old school conservatives (that I would often agree with) have been forced underground.
Now, to answer your question about President Obama not having the public Inauguration on a Sunday. If you would have done a little research, you would have found six other Inauguration dates that fell on a Sunday (for Presidents Monroe, Taylor, Hayes, Wilson, Eisenhower, and Reagan. Each of these chose to have be sworn in privately on a Sunday, and then having the public event on the next day. So Obama is simply following the precedent made by past Presidents.
Arizona Willie posted at 4:03 pm on Sat, Jan 19, 2013.
sdjtaz: FACTS are irrelevant when it comes to the right wingers hatred of Obama.
Obama could bring World Peace, eliminate the National Debt, bring unemployment down to .5% and he would STILL be WRONG to the right wingers.
downtownresident posted at 8:45 am on Sun, Jan 20, 2013.
Incoherent paranoia is a sad thing.
Barry probably thinks Obama is responsible for the Holocaust, too.
sockratties posted at 11:49 am on Sun, Jan 20, 2013.
Barry...
Thanks for the excellent letter. I thought today would just be an average morning where I had little to do but wait for the NFL game to start. Then your letter came along and made my day. I enjoy parody and it is always better when it's part of a good farce.
You even went so far as to make sure the letter was poorly constructed so your audience would think you are uneducated enough to believe what you wrote was authentic. Thanks again for the belly laugh. Keep up the good work.
[beam]
Dale Whiting posted at 4:14 pm on Sun, Jan 20, 2013.
Barry,
"Agenda," you say. Let's suppose that the decision to be sworn in twice, once on the 20th as required by law, and once tomorrow on MLK Day, was designed to link the President to Dr. King. How is that bad? Surely you do not think that our nation's first mixed race [Black and White] president would have been elected as soon as 2008 and now re-elected but for the movement Dr. King helped lead?
Dale Whiting posted at 4:14 pm on Sun, Jan 20, 2013.
And surely linking Dr. King and his work to President Obama's work is not somehow abhorent. King wanted racial equality and Obama wanted a more universal healthcare system, one run by private enterprise but with Federal supervision. How is the Affordable Healthcare Act so different from Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare? Isn't it the next logical step forward?
Dale Whiting posted at 4:14 pm on Sun, Jan 20, 2013.
Sure it's not perfect and needs to be improved. So do these other programs. Let's see what President Obama has to say about both his "second term agenda" and Dr. King on Monday, then we can talk about it again!
And for any of you "hidden agenda-2nd Amendment destruction" fear mongers out there who would be listening for hints at taking over government once guns are all gone, try reading Isaiah 2:5 tonight and pondering what a 2nd Amendment would mean once we learn of His Ways. The Department of Agriculture will have more plows and pruning hooks than needed if Isaiah get's His ways.
Dale Whiting posted at 4:15 pm on Sun, Jan 20, 2013.
Spam control strikes again! [smile][smile][smile]
Rich posted at 10:56 pm on Sun, Jan 20, 2013.
"Obama could bring World Peace, eliminate the National Debt, bring unemployment down to .5% and he would STILL be WRONG to the right wingers."
But Willie, we are at war, the National Debt is out of control to the point it affects our credit rating, and unemployment is over 8%. With no prospects, no plan on the table, and our President styling at his inauguration. Don't hate him. just consider him an incompetent clown. Doesn't make him a bad President, after all if you can't do anything right, at least do some pratfalls, the obscene taxes I pay should at least give me a little entertainment, they certainly don't do anything else constructive. If he can bring World Peace, eliminate the National Debt, bring unemployment down to .5% I'll KHA in Macy's window on New Year's Eve.
Abstract01 posted at 11:14 pm on Sun, Jan 20, 2013.
Sure am glad that our Constitution provides the right to express one's opinion.
Sure wish our societal mores provided at least some insulation from ridicule for expressing one's opinion.
What, do you suppose, is the purpose of a liberal education? (not a liberal arts degree)
Arizona Willie posted at 9:15 am on Mon, Jan 21, 2013.
Rich: you said " But Willie, we are at war, the National Debt is out of control to the point it affects our credit rating, and unemployment is over 8% " -- but it isn't!!
Last I saw unemployment was 7.8% that is NOT over 8%. Quibble sure but more accurate.
The amazing thing to me is that the right wingers are SOOOOO upset over the National Debt but they didn't complain when Bush started TWO wars without raising taxes to pay for them but instead BORROWED the money. Didn't bother them, either, when Bush started the UNFUNDED Medicare prescription benefit program and BORROWED the money for that.
If the situation is so serious --- why isn't it serious enough to raise taxes to pay the bills?
Right wingers love to call Democrats " TAX AND SPEND " but at least the Democrats believe in PAYING THEIR BILLS.
The Republicans love to BORROW AND SPEND and skip out on the bills. Leave 'em for the grandkids to pay.
In the past, when we were in a war, we had income tax surcharges to pay for it.
The nation not only survived -- it THRIVED.
And, I believe taxes should be raised on EVERYONE not just the wealthy but they should be raised most on the wealthy because they receive the most from society and they can afford it. They used to pay up to 90% at one time in our history and our economy thrived.
Rich posted at 9:48 am on Tue, Jan 22, 2013.
Willie,
If Bush is still at fault for anything then Obama is the most worthless incompetent ever to occupy the White House. And, I opposed both wars at their inception. 47% don't pay, until they do it's not going to work no matter who else does. Republican and Democrats are the same thing and neither worth a bowl of warm spit. But so long as we concede government to them nothing will work as well as it should. Basically it has all devolved from a Republican Democracy to a Bureaucratic Kleptocracy where Democrats and Republicans scramble to rob Peter to buy Paul's vote.
DonMey posted at 11:48 am on Tue, Jan 22, 2013.
"Last I saw unemployment was 7.8% that is NOT over 8%. Quibble sure but more accurate."
The percentage of people who are unemployed in the real world is a much higher number.
VofReason posted at 1:22 pm on Wed, Jan 23, 2013.
I trust President Obama is a Christian as he says he is. I wouldn't attend the Chicago church he did and I can assure you my Pastor never would have made remarks like Rev Wright.