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Richardson: As murder trial begins, another look at Tempe crime warranted

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  • chatmandu002 posted at 9:58 am on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    chatmandu002 Posts: 1010

    Bill,
    Another rant against the Tempe police department. There has to be some underlying reasons for these continued attacks on the Tempe police department. Bill you fail to notice the changing demographics that have changed both Mesa and Tempe. Mesa has dissolved into a poorer state of suburban squalor. While downtown Tempe has evolved into a uptown higher density with an urban flavor, mostly from the influence of ASU. Along with this influx of liberally minded students and urbanites comes the influence of drugs and partying. This influence of drugs and parties brings crime. There is always some lag time between the changing demographics and the ability of government services to catch up. Give Tempe a chance to engage these problems, I am sure the Tempe police department will respond in a positive manner.

     
  • billrichardson posted at 10:15 am on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    billrichardson Posts: 111

    Chat,
    No rant, just facts. Tempe's policy makers have made decisions that have left parts of Tempe as danger zones. For whatever reason the chief of police and his command staff haven't been able to take control of the problem like Mesa did and continues to do even though they have more cops and more money than everyone else. Student population in Tempe down as more students attend ASU campuses in Mesa and Phoenix and commute to Tempe. I find it hard to believe that ASU students who pay $10,000 plus costs like a dorm and parking are the people who are committing the crime in Tempe. Tempe has been aware of the problems since they appointed a new in-house police chief and gave him extra money to spend to attack crime. They spent $250,000 of that to repaint police cars black and white to "help recruiting." Tempe has excellent police officers just like other cities do. The weak link in Tempe appears to be the policy makers and appointed officials who can't seem to get it right. Chandler, Gilbert, Mesa, Phoenix and Scottsdale seem to be able to get it right, why not Tempe? Blaming ASU doesn't hold water anymore. IT wasn't ASU students that had a shoot out down on Broadway in March, it was Crips and Bloods. It's no ASU students peddling weed to fellow students in Tempe, it's the Sinaloa Drug Cartel dealing weed, meth, cocaine and heroin.

     
  • tededitedit posted at 12:22 pm on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    tededitedit Posts: 141

    I live in and bike around Tempe and have to agree with Bill's assessment and point of view that there's some problems at the highest levels. I just don't see TPD around much until there is a response. I see grafitti (criminal paint damage) staying up much longer now because of budget cuts. I don't see why serial panhandlers can't be dealt with. I've heard from solid TPD officers that they are still under-manned on the street. Is Tempe's police department too "top heavy"? Do they have a morale problem? I don't understand why there isn't a stronger police presence in known "party zones" in neighborhoods throughout Tempe. I know however that community involvement is a big part of the solution. Citizens must help be the eyes and ears of law enforcement, along with Orbit drivers and garbage truck drivers. Maybe our new Mayor and his council will make crime and nuisance a higher priority than the stupid trolley and the "town lake".

     
  • mwmike posted at 1:42 pm on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    mwmike Posts: 91

    "Tempe is a known destination for gang members. According to news reports over the last three years Tempe has also become a center of activity for organized crime drug gangs." Where did you get that? Total bs.
    "Mesa now has a crime rate that’s 24 points lower than Tempe’s." And the streets are deserted! With your prejudices, I'm sure glad that you're no longer a cop.

     
  • PCSO101 posted at 6:42 pm on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    PCSO101 Posts: 10

    Bolo,Bolo, Bolo, CBS TV 5 News just announced on live TV that there was a shooting at the Serranos Mexican Food Restaurant in "Down Town Chandler"! The very City that Bill Richardson just lauded. Bill Richardson has a vendetta against many. Get real Bill, call it for what it is. You have a vendetta, its well known, and you are pathetic, living off your dated career. Have another BEER, wake up in the morning, have another BEER, have lunch, have another BEER, play keyboard rage, and reboot, have another BEER. Write about Tempe crime, PCSO, and any others that may cross your path. What a miserable life!

     
  • mcharlesj41 posted at 1:36 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.

    mcharlesj41 Posts: 1

    Why in the world is Bill Richardson "The Guest Commentary" with regards to Tempe crime issues? Bill should look at statistics in relation to population within a high density downtown area like Tempe and the population density of downtown Mesa. Also, how does the mass shooting over two miles away at Broadway and Dorsey have anything to do with the Tempe downtown district? Bill, help me understand your point; this article is all over the place in regards to Tempe and you live in Mesa!?

     
  • billrichardson posted at 7:28 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.

    billrichardson Posts: 111

    mcharlesj41,

    Density is no excuse for crime. Downtown has been dense for years so it's not a new situation. Questions about drugs and gangs are also not new. The shooting on Broadway is relevant because of who the shooters were and the their willingness to blast away in crowd at a local music venue. As far as the downtown district and the area around it and crime, it appears that's epicenter of the crime problem and as we know, crime can spread if not controlled. If density is the problem city officials need to come up with a plan to deal with it effectively and quickly. I live in Tempe and am sick and tired of Tempe, my home town, being the crime capital of the East Valley and having a crime rate higher than Phoenix's, and double the average crime rate in Arizona. I'm also sick and tired of the city raising my taxes to pay for a police department that continues to spend money without fixing the problem. Check out the new Arizona Republic website at http://www.azcentral.com/news/cityguides/index.php and compare Tempe to other cities in costs and results. The other thing I find interesting about Tempe's problems is that when I ask the police chief, city manager or mayor and council about crime you don't get an answer. When I ask questions in other cities I do. What's Tempe got to hide?

    Thanks for taking the time to read my column. I hope I answered your questions.

     
  • Rich posted at 9:30 pm on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.

    Rich Posts: 1869

    Bill,

    Have you ever stopped to consider crime? We all commit crime, most of us daily. We are subject to so many minor infractions that any police force is impotent. In Tempe, the density (and scientific study does confirm it as a factor), diversity (again scientifically related), all play a part. What you are talking about is anarchy, and we live it. More police won't solve it, better police only make a small dent. The man who got a ticket for his trash being 38 inches out of place, can only partially take you seriously. The man who has been attacked by police, standing on his front lawn, committing no crime, yet convicted of nonsense, simply doesn't believe in law at all, yet he is your juror, and your control. Policing only works as a partnership with the public. And no such partnership exists.

     
  • billrichardson posted at 7:05 am on Mon, Oct 8, 2012.

    billrichardson Posts: 111

    Rich,

    You make some very good points. "Policing only works as a partnership with the public. And no such partnership exists," is so true. What the police can and should do is to strike fear in the hearts of real criminals and not your average citizen. Thanks.

     
  • lauraaz posted at 8:44 am on Mon, Oct 8, 2012.

    lauraaz Posts: 31

    It seems to me that our city council, and former mayor have been on a mission
    for the last few years of promoting growth through higher density. It seems that the downtown merchants and developers get anything that they want without any thought to how the development would effect quality of life. Some good examples would be the boondoggle streetcar project, and the section 8 housing high-rise on Apache. Neither project took the concerns of the neighborhood residents seriously. The city government is only interested in growth, not quality of life. Since Tempe is land locked, the only way it can grow is increased density. This increase in density is almost always followed by an increase in crime. Its the city government that has been promoting downtown Tempe as the party center of the valley. Is it any surprise that the police are unable to control the party atmosphere downtown? If the police were to crack down or even slow down the party, all the downtown merchants are going to go crying to the city council that its hurting business. In my opinion, its the city council and mayor(s) that need to be held accountable.

     
  • Engaged Voter posted at 12:13 pm on Mon, Oct 8, 2012.

    Engaged Voter Posts: 1070

    "Thousands would gather there on weekends until city fathers decided enough was enough and took back the downtown from revelers and criminals. Mesa now has a crime rate that’s 24 points lower than Tempe’s."

    I notice that, of all the cities' nightlives you mentioned, you omitted Mesa.

    Could that be because of the fact that Mesa effectively HAS NO NIGHTLIFE.

    Lower crime? Well sure, that happens (along with lower everything else) when you force businesses to close and transform downtown Mesa into a deserted ghost town at night.

     
  • KJDaVinci777 posted at 12:46 pm on Mon, Oct 8, 2012.

    KJDaVinci777 Posts: 89

    BILL, I used to live in Tempe and I did not realize how bad the crime situation has become...Very informative article...However, in reading some feedback comments, some Arpioa supporters cannot handle the truth...Looks like Tempe has the slime Arpaio infection...

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 4:03 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

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    BILL............GIVE THE (ANYBODY BUT MESA P.D.) .......VENDETTAS......A REST.

     
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