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Being that the petitioners only represent an extremely small percentage of their respective state's population, it wouldn't be fair for the rest of the state's citizens. Therefore the logical solution is to charter ships for these malcontents and ship them to Somalia. They'll love it there. No government, no taxes, no schools, no infrastructure. A Tea Party paradise !!
The sad thing is that the mental midgets who we elected to run this state are all for this madness.They obviously have no idea of the real ramifications of this folly.The collective IQ of our state officials is somewhere between 50 and 60.They belong in an institution, with padded cells.
Well said, Danny. Unfortunately your irony will be intentionally missed by the audience you wish you could reach.
Love it....love it...love it.Obama was sure "ticked off" about these petitioners, now from all 50 States and the list just keeps on getting longer and longer. Putin must be laughing his patootie off right now.
Even when Bush won the "hanging chad" Election....you never saw hundreds of thousands of Democrats who were so disgusted with their newly-elected President that they wanted to secede from the Union........what a hoot and a slap-in-the-face for our very own....."MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE"..........LOL.
@Leon - Putin may be wondering if this is what Obama meant about having more "flexibility" after the election.
Hey downtownrodent - If you don't like Arizona, get out. The more anti-Arizonans like you who leave, the better for those of us who like it here.
100,000 nut jobs in a country of over 300 million people. We must be doing something right.
Leon & d4az....Got your bags packed yet ? Your cabins on the SS Somalia are ready for you. Bon voyage !!
100,000? I'm amazed.
That's all that's left of the silly Tea Party? It's like Karl Rove drove a stake right through the heart of the Tea Party and killed it.
Channel 5 noted a few days ago that half of the Arizona petition signers are either from out of state or leave their locations unknown.
They want us out of the country, they want to get rid of Arizona from the U.S.
And who can blame them?
After all, we're the state that brought the U.S. Arpaio, Brewer, Pearce . . . and LEON
Leon you said " Even when Bush won the "hanging chad" Election....you never saw hundreds of thousands of Democrats who were so disgusted with their newly-elected President that they wanted to secede from the Union.."When Bush was pResident there was no web page where citizens could post like that.Bush didn't want to hear it.He didn't even want to see anyone who disagreed with him.Protesters were kept behind chain link fences out of sight of any motorcade with Bush and officials so they didn't have to see or hear them.The Bush administration trampled all over the civil rights of protesters.They wouldn't have dreamed of giving citizens a voice like that web page.
Hey blubba - Why would I leave, I like Arizona and am happy staying here; anti-Arizonans like you are the ones who should be packing.
This is like when a bratty child threatens to run away if he doesn't get his way. The best response would be to help him pack his bags.Don't like what the American majority has decided? Give up your citizenship and leave. We won't miss you. Somalia awaits.
d4az ....Got no problem with my country, or our President, no reason I should leave. I'm merely looking out for your happiness. If you don't like our President (elected by the majority) or the direction of this nation (slowly, but surely recovering from the eight years of devistation inflicted by Bush/Cheney), you are more than welcome to denounce your citizenship (like the others that want to secede) and leave. We won't miss you, and I'm sure you will find happiness in Somalia. As I said your cabin is ready on the SS Somalia, you should start packing now. Your paradise awaits!!!
d4az....Anti-Arizonan?....Please point out in my posts where I've made any disparaging remarks of Arizona. I'm optimistic of the direction of my Country AND my State. I've lived in Arizona for more than 44 years. Arizona will eventually return to the sane politics we had here in the '60's. Polititians used to work across the aisle in those days and great things were accomplished for Arizona. The times they are a changin'. And for the better !!
mwmike....You're right!!!!! 100,000 nut jobs, in a country of 314,159,265 people (on 8-14-12) That equates to under .032% I think this extremely narrow band of nut cases have had their 15 minutes.
downtown: As I recall, the Governer was AGAINST it.
Mike McClellan: Wow, now you are making personal attacks? And you call yourself a "columnist"? Tsk, tsk...
bubba - You really believe we're in a recovery - how sad. IJust who is going to pay the bills if the people that oppose Obama leave?
My bet on the economy is just the opposite. There's nothing Obama has proposed that will do anything different than the last four years. Companies will continue to pull back.- retracting investment, massive layoffs, even more unemployment. The next four years will be just as bad as the last four with a good chance of collapse of the monetary system.
The next big real estate bubble will be the college loan bubble - where millions of kids (many devoted to Obama) come out of school with massive loans, many with worthless degrees, with college hierarchies as the benefactors, just like flipping houses did for the banks. Wonder if the liberal education will be blamed like the banks.
Time will tell, but let's see who's right.
Symbolic protests are great, and they make those who are involved feel, well, involved. It's kinda like going to Church...everyone shows up, and talks the talk, so they can go back to reality, for the rest of the week. I can dig it...
Thing is, seceding is a lot like going to Church, only every day...all of a sudden talking the talk becomes walking the walk. That's where the feel good symbolics turn to, well the lowest common denominator, eh?
Here's my bet on the next bubble bursting phenomena--the military industrial complex. The worst part of it will be that the arms selling will remain, and even increase, but the actual size of the government military will shrink, and be even more priviatized, resulting in even more little wars being subsidized and hired out to the lowest bidder. Strangely, this won't happen, until the next election cycle, when the Republicans will win both houses of Congress. It will be blamed on the Democrats, though.
Invest in drone technologies...it's the coming thing, and not just for air strikes...they will make them for domestic surveillance of the citizenry, too...big marketing opps (and ops, too) for this, coming our way, thanks to those guys who "pay the bills", but don't pay the blood, sweat, and tears...
Can't wait to see the "symbolic protests" then...
mnjcpa ....Cheer up. There is nothing to fear but fear itself. The stock market has doubled since Obama first took office. We are leaving the debacle Bush has tangled us up in Iraq. Like an oceanliner changing course is slow but steady. We are not "Staying the Course" that got us into this mess. We have become a society used to microwave ovens and super glue, expecting instant results, no matter of the depth of our problems. If the companies continue to pull back, there will be others that will fill their spots to sell the products and employ American citizens. Fair trade tariffs would go far to bring jobs back, Fear, doom and gloom is not going to help. This nation has endured worse and will overcome.
bubba - the stock market is falsely propped up by a monetary system that's close to collapse. You can live in your liberal bubble if you want. I work in the capital markets and I can assure you you're view is not held by those who are informed.
mnjcpa....The sky is falling, end days are near, prepare for armagedon!
mnjcpa...Being as you work in the capital markets and are so well informed to be able to predict the future, were you as critical of the Bush/Cheney administration that caused the collapse of this economy?
bubba - Bush wasn't in my discussion nor is it necessary to the conversation. The Republicans have been just as guilty of bad policy as the Democrats.
If it makes you feel better to be flippant, have at it. At this stage there's likely to only be an `event` that will change the economic direction we're headed anyway because there's too many people like you that actually believe what you just affirmed in the election.
Time will tell if I'm right.
mnjcpa......I don't believe mentioning the Bush administration's handling of the economy is at all flippant. It serves as a reasonable baseline situation to showcase your ability to predict the economy's direction. Please inform us of your forewarnings to the financial collapse that occured in 2008. I know Bush wasn't in your discussion, but we need to adress the cause of the collapse to understand the effects of it, and the remedy to it. Republicans are quick to dismiss the real cause, and blame this debacle on Obama. The deregulation of the financial industry began with Reagan. Please comment on your perspective of the deregulation on the financial industry that makes privite profit risks the taxpayer's liabilities.
bubba....you're request is too broad to comment in a comment column. Forewarnings, deregulation, and Bush are both inconsequential to the discussion and judging by your previous comments to others, you're not interested in understanding this topic.
You won - congratulations. Obama used blaming Bush quite effectively. Otherwise how else would someone snowball people in to voting them with real unemployment numbers more like 15%, 23 million people out of work, 16 million more on food stamps.
People like yourself don't understand the value of freedom. And the Republicans did a lousy job of communicating it. Even the Russian newspaper Pravda is laughing at us. Rather than pick apart my comments, let time do it's job.
Layoffs, pullback on investments, lowered tax revenues - even with tax increases because the economic climate is dismal. The WSJ is reporting this daily.
We'll see if I'm right.
mnjcpa......Well then narrow it down to something you can handle, don't just reduce your reply to ad hominem comments about "people like me".
Your comments to others about leaving on ships, Bush, and forewarnings tells me all I need to know to say thanks, but no thanks.
mnjcpa.....Well you had your chance.
bubba...the topic is seceding - not forewarnings, deregulation, and Bush. The cause of the financial meltdown is massive spending from BOTH Democrats and Republicans. I don't live in a neo-con world (whatever that is). I'm registered independent and worked in the capital markets and tax for 30 years. It's based in the reality of the monetary system which will collapse - likely in Obama's second term.
What I don't believe in is the utopia you've been sold.
mnjcpa.....One last comment to your response:..."Forewarnings, deregulation, and Bush are both inconsequential to the discussion and judging by your previous comments to others, you're not interested in understanding this topic."...........I understand the topic quite well. You've avoided addressing the cause of this financial meltdown. And if you can't understand the cause, you can't address the effect, much less prescribe the cure. Live in your neo-con world of fear, doom and gloom. Leave the cure to those that have an understanding, and positive resolve.
mnjcpa....."bubba...the topic is seceding"........That's correct. It was your post at 8:37 a.m. that strayed off topic. Try to focus.
No it didn't. It was in response to your dream state that America is in some kind of recovery. I beg to differ. The Wall Street Journal begs to differ.
Time will tell bubba - wait until January when people start seeing the costs of Obamacare and tax rate changes play out in their paychecks.
Let me know then how your fictionalized recovery is working.
mnjcpa ...As you said "Time will tell." This won't be a short term or painless recovery. Spending will be reigned in and the wealthy will pay their fair share. Trickle Down has proven to be a huge failure. The wealthy's off shore bank accounts have taken the assests they aquired out of the economy, to thwart any tricke down effect. A new report reveals how wealthy individuals and their families have between $21 and $32 trillion of hidden financial assets around the world in what are known as offshore accounts or tax havens. The actual sums could be higher because the study only deals with financial wealth deposited in bank and investment accounts, and not other assets such as property and yachts. The inquiry was commissioned by the Tax Justice Network and is being touted as the most comprehensive report ever on the "offshore economy." It also finds that private banks are deeply involved in running offshore havens, with UBS, Credit Suisse and Goldman Sachs handling the most assets. The time has come for the wealthy to be included in this recovery.
bubba - I've been in the tax business for 30 years. If you're at all interested in understanding this issue, jump over to the Beydler article and look at JNelson's response this morning. He explains it perfectly. Or continue believing the Left's message.
Or wait and watch your fictionalized recovery.
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