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Popovich: Girls need to be shown the path to success through STEM education

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13 comments:

  • Cerulean posted at 9:05 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1328

    It can be confusing to be a woman. It is always a conflict between chic and geek as pointed out by authors like Simone de Beauvoir or Caitlin Moran in her new book ‘How to be a Woman’. Our lives, our physiology is SO MUCH more complicated!
    This promo for Lunafest a film fest for women film makers provides a good example: http://vimeo.com/47046613

    Check out girl power @ http://girlpowerhour.com

    With all that said, this letter by Carol S. Popovich is very important! There is nothing but good that can come from more women perusing higher degrees in math and science.

    East Valley Tribune, Thank- you for printing a column worth reading.

     
  • ohohmrbill posted at 9:16 pm on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.

    ohohmrbill Posts: 6

    "Carol S. Popovich is the Senior FIRST® Community Relations Representative at Microchip Technology Inc. in Chandler and the Arizona FIRST Regional Director and an Advisor on the Sonoran Science Academy Board. She works closely with high school and middle school robotics students throughout Arizona."

    I find it really incredible that MS. Popovich would even lend her name to Sonoran Science Academy and advocate for girls' rights and education in the same breath. Sonoran Science Academy had multiple cases of teachers abusing and even sexually harassing female students where Turkish staff members downplayed and even concealed such acts from parents.

    Tucson Weekly Police Dispatch, July 24, 2003


    Closets are for Clothes
    West Ina Road and North La Cholla Boulevard, July 3, 10:40 a.m.

    Students at a local school complained to a teacher that one of her colleagues repeatedly shut them in a closet, according to report from the Pima County Sheriff's Department.

    One day, a student reportedly made a comment to a female teacher about being detained in a male teacher's classroom closet at the Sonoran Science Academy, 2131 W. Ina Road. At first, the woman thought the boy--a known prankster--was joking, the record said.

    Later, the boy commented about being stationed in the closet a little more than 90 minutes by the same man, the female teacher alleged. This time, she said, she asked the boy if he was sincere.
    At this point, about six other students reportedly claimed they had either been placed in the closet by the male teacher or had seen him put someone in it.

    The female teacher informed authorities that both she and the male teacher's closets have desks in them. The students reportedly told her that they were shut in there with instructions not to sit down, turn on the light or open the door--which, she said, doesn't have a lock.

    The woman told authorities a child developed asthma from, she believed, either being locked in the closet or being threatened with it. She reportedly expressed concern for all the children at the school.

    The female teacher was given a case number and the phone number to the Criminal Investigations Division.u

    Sonoran Science Academy even goes as far as threatening Lawsuits against anyone who speaks out against Sexually Harassment of Female students. Which by the way are follwers and cult members of Imam Mouhamad Fethullah Gulen .

     
  • ohohmrbill posted at 9:31 pm on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.

    ohohmrbill Posts: 6

    Mr. Fatih Karatas Imam still awaiting my lawsuit.... Oh that's right you are guilty of concealing sexually harassment from a parent and failing to notify the proper authorities by law. ... Any time any place my friend.

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 9:40 am on Tue, Dec 4, 2012.

    Leon Ceniceros Posts: 2527

    More ..."BLAME THE MAN".......rhetoric for the Feminists.

    Can anyone in this Day and Age of lawsuits, A.C.L.U., Title XI and every other "gender discrimination ruling".....think that young girls are being told by their male teachers ........"THAT THEY CAN DO WHAT LITTLE BOYS DO".......?????

    THE REASON THAT GIRLS DON'T LIKE TO GO INTO THE MATH AND ENGINEERING IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T APPEAL TO THEM.........PERIOD.

    STOP WITH THE ...."GENDER, RACIAL, ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS = BLAME GAME".

    IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.......SO PLEASE QUIT RIDING THIS "DEAD" HORSE TO DEATH............[wink]

     
  • sockratties posted at 7:27 am on Wed, Dec 5, 2012.

    sockratties Posts: 959

    LEON IS A TROLL.... DON'T FEED THE TROLLS

     
  • JMJ posted at 11:47 am on Wed, Dec 5, 2012.

    JMJ Posts: 297

    STEM Education is vital to girls as well as boys, starting in the HOME. Yes, the home. Parents whose educational aspirations have afforded them success in these careers tend to engender a love of the sciences, math, technology and engineering by exposing their children to career opportunities in them.

     
  • JMJ posted at 11:48 am on Wed, Dec 5, 2012.

    JMJ Posts: 297

    Having both genders of children, and being an educator, I made sure that my offspring, both male and female, went to places like Houston's NASA Johnson Space Center, attended Space Camp in Alabama, observed an actual shuttle launch at Florida's Cape Canaveral,attended Astronomy Camp, Engineering Camp at Notre Dame, and myriad museums including the Smithsonian, Wright-Patt AFB, Pima Air Museum, visits to the Air Force Academy, the Naval Academy, tours of aircraft carriers, submarines, visits to the Arizona Science Center, etc. Guess what? Thye're scientists and engineers. They make more than I ever did as a teacher.

     
  • JMJ posted at 11:48 am on Wed, Dec 5, 2012.

    JMJ Posts: 297

    Parents are the primary vital link in making sure their children are aware of amazing things that an education affords them. Steering children into a love of science and technology, if that is their passion, while ensuring their love of the Arts, as well [music, art, etc.] is something that must start in the home.

    Girls tend to not want to be seen as "geeks", and even the best and the brightest girls tend to doubt themselves during their teenaged years. Studies have shown that girls do need strong female role models and male role models who encourage them. That's where teachers come in. Encouraging both girls and boys into these career paths must also extend into the guidance and career centers of their schools. That did NOT happen with my kids, unfortunately, so parents, make sure YOU are aware of the scholarship and career centers, and go online often to find opportunities for your children. There are scholarships to places like Space Camp which are available.

     
  • JMJ posted at 11:48 am on Wed, Dec 5, 2012.

    JMJ Posts: 297

    In my years of teaching, I also witnessed parents who were not exposed, themselves, to "other than" [...teaching, nursing, cosmetology, secondary-instead-of-primary provider positions...] productive, marketable and satisfying careers who were literally afraid of letting their children[male or female] become "better", somehow in their lot in life. I don't know if there is a name for that syndrome, but parents, you must dream big to help your children dream big.

    One of the things parents should never do is say, "Well, I was never 'good' at math, either...". That gives your child, male or female, carte blanche to not reach higher.

    OK, I've said my piece. My kids and their friends have careers in marvelous fields, STEM as well as legal and the arts, which they pursued because their love of education and self-fulfillment started in the home. They are the movers and the shakers of their generation.

     
  • JMJ posted at 11:49 am on Wed, Dec 5, 2012.

    JMJ Posts: 297

    EVT what is UP with your stupid SPAM filter?

     
  • Bluepoet posted at 2:26 pm on Wed, Dec 5, 2012.

    Bluepoet Posts: 437

    Interest in Math, Science and Technology is vital to our future, as a nation. The Industrial Age is drawing to a close, as the Information Age comes to fruition. This isn't a male/female issue, although Ms. Popovich does have some rather alarming statistics regarding the under-representation of women in this field. It is, indeed, a vestigal part of our society's outdated notions of the role of women. I think that is what makes the lives of women so complicated, not their physiology.

    I submit that this interest is lacking, overall, in this country, for both genders. This is because of class bias, as well as cultural and religious bias and stereotypical notions of "geekdom". I say, let both boys and girls wave their Geek Flags high!!

    Oh, and Ms. Popovich--I don't think these jobs go unfilled. There are many STEM-trained people coming to the US, from other countries, like India and Korea, where students are actually encouraged to learn these skills, by parents, schools, and the government!

    I work in Aerospace, and we frequently have student tours, from high schools and colleges. I am encouraged by the questions and the curiosity we see from a good number of them. I just wonder what happens, when the bus drops them off at home, that night. How many are energized enough to seek more, and how many are denigrated for having imaginations?

     
  • Cerulean posted at 10:25 am on Fri, Dec 7, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1328

    I don’t mean to suggest that the differences in women’s physiology prevent young women from using their intelligence.
    I am trying to make the point that you do not have to live in a nunnery like ‘Galileo’s Daughter’ to be a leader in science and math.

     
  • rainity posted at 7:42 am on Tue, Jan 1, 2013.

    rainity Posts: 1

    I have been writing some articles on this topic also: http://www.engineeringgirl.com
    I believe that one of the reasons why engineering is associated with being a "geek" or a "nerd" is because to become good at something -- one needs to spend a lot of time studying or practicing "that thing" to be good at it. It is not a coincidence that people who are anti-social are "geeks" and "nerds", and therefore, "scientists" and "engineers". The human race as a whole is a social species -- and the majority of people like to socialize in their free time instead of "study". I know that this sounds like a odd comment from someone who is an engineer -- but we all know that this is true!

     

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