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Dupuy: 2012's Naughty or Nice List

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12 comments:

  • VofReason posted at 12:29 pm on Tue, Dec 11, 2012.

    VofReason Posts: 1487

    I think Bluepoet is jumping to a conclusion here. I never said socialist and my suggestion is that a centrist usually will agree with both sides at different times. I have read her columns before and she absolutely never agrees with anything the GOP does, says or promotes. She does agree with the Democratic party at every turn and more with the far left element of the party. I am sure that there is a variety of both Democrates and Republicans. Unfortunatly, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama don't represent the "centrist" element of the party and are the current leadership- no? Perhaps Mrs Dupay might want to get past refrences of the party of Lincoln and do some research on the party of Kennedy. Looked a lot different back then.

     
  • Bluepoet posted at 11:45 am on Tue, Dec 11, 2012.

    Bluepoet Posts: 485

    Have you ever considered that a Democrat is not, by definition, a socialist? Has it ever occured to you that both Democrats and Republicans could be Centrist?

    Emphasis on "could be"...therein is the possibility that ideas could be discussed openly, and agreements made, without the taint of over-the-top labels and finger-pointing.

    As for Ms Dupuy, I really have never heard of her at all, before this article, but, judging from the article, as written, it would seem she has a pretty centrist view, to me, although certainly biased, in favor of Democrats. I saw no quotes from her, from the Manifesto, or any praise for Chairman Mao. I only saw criticism of the partisan Republicans, who would apparently rather see their party commit suicide, than negotiate for the good of the country.

    VofR, Democrats are a pretty eclectic bunch, despite your all-in-one-inclusional views. They have trouble agreeing amongst themselves, let alone Republicans. Instead of using strategies around that, as they did in the past, to great success, Republicans have decided to choke the process altogether. It's the equivalent of a child, holding his breath until he gets his own way...

    No socialists==no fascists

    Just liberal views and conservative views, depending upon the subject at hand.

    As far as fish and water--how do you know a fish doesn't realise it's in water? Did the real Easter bunny tell you? [beam]

     
  • VofReason posted at 10:04 am on Tue, Dec 11, 2012.

    VofReason Posts: 1487

    Yes, people that do agree with me would be ironically Mexico. They have very little trouble with people illegally immigrating there. Want to guess what kind of benefits Mexico gives to the few that get by their border? On the other point, a fish doesn't realize he is in water. That is why left leaning people think that far left columists are centrist. Here is a hint, have you ever heard Mrs Dupay say something positive about the GOP or any, any of their ideas? On the other hand, have you ever heard her with anything bad to say about a Democrate? Ding ding ding.

     
  • Cerulean posted at 9:02 am on Tue, Dec 11, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1385

    Vof Reason the Easter Bunny? Humm

    It occurs to me that if anyone has a felony conviction that person is already identified. If they try to gain citizenship they will be deported – again.
    Once the non-criminals come out from the underground economy they become happier, healthier and more wise.

    Tina Dupuy is centrist, with a left leaning twist.

     
  • Bluepoet posted at 7:26 am on Tue, Dec 11, 2012.

    Bluepoet Posts: 485

    I suspect that anyone who doesn't agree with you, VofR, is, in your view, Karl Marx.

    By the way, keep your eggs off my lawn, next Easter!

    Nice article, Ms Dupuy...I think you're sucking up to Santa, too, though...just a little. Still trying for that pony?

     
  • VofReason posted at 1:43 pm on Mon, Dec 10, 2012.

    VofReason Posts: 1487

    We who read the Tribune are not often exposed to centrist female guest columnist. Thank you Tina Dupuy. Centrist? If this lady isn't far left, I am the Easter Bunny.

     
  • VofReason posted at 1:42 pm on Mon, Dec 10, 2012.

    VofReason Posts: 1487

    This sounds fantastice. I am sure that the illegal aliens with felony convictions or identity violations (read stealing someones SSN) will be the first in line to identify themselves with the Federal Government. Sometimes irony is not funny- someone once said. Maybe they should also add that for the size of family or an individual, that that illegal alien has the ability to support themselves in the United States and will not become a burden on welfare, rent assistance, foodstamps, or healthcare. Or are we just talking theoretically it is a good idea?

     
  • Cerulean posted at 2:57 pm on Sun, Dec 9, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1385

    I agree AzWillie except that you are wrong about immigration laws “that worked pretty well”. Our boarder enforcement has always been rather wishy washy and was especially lax fifteen years ago. Now we face the consequence of loose immigration policy.

    The ‘A’ in S.A.N.E. stands for account. The goal is to account for everyone without lawful authority and requires those who are here to register for a federally established form of legal status. Here is some of the suggestion:

    For all who entered the U.S. or remained without lawful authority as of [proposed date: January 1, 2011], they may apply within a five-year period for temporary legal residency with authorization to work in the U.S.
    • During this timeframe, those applying for temporary legal residency will pay a processing fee and undergo a background check and those with felony convictions (other than individual identity violations) will be deported.
    • At the end of the initial five-year period, those who have completed all necessary administrative steps and are eligible for permanent legal residency may petition to do so.
    You can read the entire platform here: http://therealarizona.org/wp-content/uploads/SANE-Official-Platform-12-5.pdf

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 10:53 am on Sun, Dec 9, 2012.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1988

    Cerulean ... the only immigration reform needed is perhaps to hire more people to process the paperwork of applicants.

    We already have immigration laws that worked pretty well and would continue to work just fine if they were only rigidly enforced. Instead we have been allowing employers to actively recruit illegal aliens in order to get cheap labor and undercut American workers and other people who came here legally.

    EVERY illegal invader should be deported and required to return via the correct methods by filing their paper work and paying the fees and waiting their turn.

    Tens of thousands do it every year. Why should one group of people be exempt from following the law? Why should we tolerate that?

    There should be ZERO TOLERANCE for breaking our immigration laws.

     
  • Cerulean posted at 8:16 am on Sun, Dec 9, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1385

    Another ‘naughty’ is Governor Brewer. Actually, she is dumbfounded when asked what she believes about global warming. She said, “Everybody has an opinion on it, you know, I, you know, probably [probably?] don’t believe that it’s manmade, I believe that, you know, weather elements are controlled, maybe [maybe?], by different things.” She then scolded the reporter for not asking her an ‘energy’ related question. Sometimes irony is not funny.
    I believe our governor was stupefied because ALEC was not at her ear with their talking points.

    ‘Nice’ is a new coalition of Arizona leaders who want to help Congress with a S.A.N.E. solution to immigration reform. http://therealarizona.org/

    Also ‘nice’ is Tina Dupuy. We who read the Tribune are not often exposed to centrist female guest columnist. Thank you Tina Dupuy.

     
  • bubba posted at 6:53 am on Sun, Dec 9, 2012.

    bubba Posts: 318

    sockratties: I agree. Governor Chris Christie exercises the diplomacy that may lead the Repulican party back into relevancy.

     
  • sockratties posted at 1:41 pm on Sat, Dec 8, 2012.

    sockratties Posts: 970

    You might also put New Jersey governor Chris Christie on the nice list for putting his state and duties above politics by acknowledging the assistance provided by FEMA and the administration. He’s been a straight shooter all along and is an exception to the current crop of GOP politicians. Almost an exact opposite of what McCain has become. If he runs for President in 2016 I’ll definitely be giving him a second look.

     
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