It is completely disingenuous for Iowa tea party founder Ryan Rhodes to challenge President Barack Obama about VP Joe Biden allegedly referring to tea party members of Congress as "terrorists." Besides the fact that Biden did not say this, please let us not forget that it is the tea party that has continuously referred to Obama as a socialist; a fraud since they claim he was born in Kenya; a liar including a tea party Congressman shouting that accusation during Obama's State of the Union address; a communist who wants to take away citizens' freedoms; and who is depicted on posters at tea party rallies in the most vulgar and insulting manner possible, the nicest of which portrays Obama as a witch doctor with a bone in his nose.
Besides needing to get their facts straight, something the tea party rarely bothers doing, they should tone down their rhetoric.
Edward F. Murphy, Mesa
Dale Whiting posted at 2:54 pm on Fri, Aug 19, 2011.
What does the Tea Party preach? What are its basic underlying principles? I can't find an authoritative list anywhere. Is it a "big tent" party, making room for many differing views? Or does it have some central focii? If so, what are they?
Tea Partiers, SPEAK UP!
Accuracy posted at 3:51 pm on Fri, Aug 19, 2011.
Edward F. Murphy wrote: “It is completely disingenuous for Iowa tea party founder Ryan Rhodes to challenge President Barack Obama about VP Joe Biden allegedly referring to tea party members of Congress as "terrorists." Besides the fact that Biden did not say this..”
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August 1st, during the debt ceiling debate; Vice President Joe Biden, Liberal House Rep. Mike Doyle, D-Pa., and a number of other Liberal House Democrats (with critical discourse) where allegedly accusing Tea Party aligned Republicans of having “acted like terrorists.”
August 15th, Ryan Rhodes, of the Iowa Tea Party Revolution, did speak up to President Obama publicly at a town hall meeting in Iowa and wanted to know whether or not Vice President Joe Biden did in fact call Tea Partiers “terrorists” during the debt ceiling debate.
Instead of answering Rhodes' question, and to avoid the fact that Biden did say this, Obama virtually brushed him off.
Obama did circle back later: "First of all, in fairness to this gentleman who raised a question, I absolutely agree that everybody needs to try to tone down the rhetoric.” Obama said. "Now, in fairness, since I've been called a socialist who wasn't born in this country, who is destroying America and taking away its freedoms because I passed a health care bill, I'm all for lowering the rhetoric."
During the fight over the debt ceiling, it was the Democrats that should have toned down their rhetoric . . . something the Liberals rarely bothers doing.
samkat posted at 5:12 pm on Fri, Aug 19, 2011.
Darn Dale, we actually agree on something. I went to their web site and came to the same conclusion.
Cerulean posted at 5:29 pm on Fri, Aug 19, 2011.
The fact is that some Republicans did agree to a 4 trillion dollar deficit reduction with repeal of some corporate tax loopholes, but the Know-Nothing Tea Partiers vetoed that proposition in favor of a ‘NO tax policy’.
The wealth that was subsequently lost in the st0ck market represents the life savings and retirement accounts of millions of average citizens.
If that isn’t terrorism, I do not know what is.
A_Rose_By_Any_Other_Name posted at 8:35 pm on Fri, Aug 19, 2011.
Obozo's presidential campaign was launched from Bill Ayers' house. Bill is a known communist and terrorist of the 60's and 70's so to call him a socialist is an understatement.
Speaking at the National Council of La Ratza’s annual conference recently, President Obama said, “The idea of doing things on my own is very tempting. . . . But that is not how our system works. Then he gave a backdoor amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, so it's pretty obvious he's a liar. As the head illegal alien he thinks he can do whatever he wants and congress be darned. Sounds a lot like Roman general and dictator Julius Caesar and the Roman Senate of the 1st century.
August 1st, during the debt ceiling debate; Vice President Joe Biden, Liberal House Rep. Mike Doyle, D-Pa., and a number of other Liberal House Democrats (with critical discourse) where allegedly accusing Tea Party aligned Republicans of having “acted like terrorists.” So technically Biden didn't directly call tea part activists terrorists, but come on, is that any different?
Just because you liberals are confused about what "no more taxes" and "spend no more than you take in" means isn't any reason to say the tea party has no focus.
There is no national president or even a real political party. This is a real grass roots organization that is focused primarily with cutting big government and reducing the national deficit. It's growing stronger every day and will be a force you will have to deal with in 2012. Ignore us and even laugh at us but you better fear us cause we are coming after you big government welfare state liberals with an agenda we all share that will bring this country back to the greatness that it once was.
A_Rose_By_Any_Other_Name posted at 8:57 pm on Fri, Aug 19, 2011.
Well Leon, not even Obozo thinks Biden has a brain. In fact Biden was chosen as Obozo's running mate for that very same reason. You see, Biden actually makes Obozo look smart in comparison. They both make such a lovely couple of traitors don't they?
onerebel posted at 9:12 pm on Fri, Aug 19, 2011.
Socialism, System of social organization in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social control; also, the political movements aimed at putting that system into practice
From Britannica Concise Encyclopedia
That sounds like Obama's ideology to me, and as for the left telling the right to tone down the rhetoric, THAT'S THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK !
A_Rose_By_Any_Other_Name posted at 11:53 pm on Fri, Aug 19, 2011.
samkat, you went to who's website? You went to a website that proclaimed itself to be the official tea party website of the whole nation or state or city or what? Was it a site that declared itself to represent all tea party advocates everywhere? Do you even have a clue who the Tea Party is made up of? Where is this website you went to? I'd really like to see what you saw when you said you went to "THEIR" website.
samkat posted at 10:19 am on Sat, Aug 20, 2011.
Rose: Since you are so knowledgeable, please enlighten us on what the tea party stands for and identify the official tp web sites. Do you actually have a clue as to what the tea party stands for?
If you want to takes potshots at Dale and me, ante up with the facts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even you. I expand my knowledge by reading and listening and thus far, I can find little that details what the tea party stands for. :-)
I have to assume that you are a tea party member and maybe even a leader since you are so defensive.
NothingButTheTruth posted at 12:43 pm on Sat, Aug 20, 2011.
samkat, Rose already answered your questions. I'll quote her since she so much more eloquent than I. "no more taxes" and "spend no more than you take in" pretty much states the tea party position. "There is no national president or even a real political party. This is a real grass roots organization that is focused primarily with cutting big government and reducing the national deficit." We have no national leaders or national headquarters, and it isn't even a real political party. If that doesn't answer your questions than nothing ever will. When we take back the government with republicans who have been bent to accept our will, you will be surprised cause you could not see our position or national headquarters.
NothingButTheTruth posted at 12:51 pm on Sat, Aug 20, 2011.
The reason you can find few details are that it is just as simple as my last comment. We don't need reams and reams of documents stating hundreds of convoluted goals. We don't take oaths and nominate presidents and pay for luxurious party buildings. We keep it inexpensive because keeping it inexpensive, AKA within our means, is what we are all about. If you want to learn more go here and seek out fellow patriots and ask them what is really going on. You might find Rose and I there but we'll never let you know who we are cause we don't trust you enough yet. http://arizonateaparty.ning.com/events/mesa-tea-party-patriots
samkat posted at 6:41 pm on Sat, Aug 20, 2011.
Nothing, if you have to remain anonomyous, then obviously, you are not very proud of being a TP member. :-)
With that said, from what I have ascertained, the TP is really the party of no.
chatmandu002 posted at 10:08 am on Sun, Aug 21, 2011.
I am a Tea Party member and I will gladly tell you the 3 core values of the Tea Party.
1. Fiscal responsibility.
2. Constitutionally limited government.
3. Free market enterprise.
That's it, the Tea Party platform. Anything else you may here is made up by the liberal/progressive/socialist media. If you don't believe this, then come to a Tea Party meeting or visit our website at www.teapartypatriots.org
A_Rose_By_Any_Other_Name posted at 11:10 am on Sun, Aug 21, 2011.
No samkat, you anti tea party activists scare us. We would never place our real names in a forum like this. Why don't you? Come to our tea party and let us know your name and that you are samkat in this forum then trust us.
LinMesa posted at 2:58 pm on Sun, Aug 21, 2011.
Dear "Nothingbutthetruth", "When we take back the government with republicans who have been bent to accept our will, you will be surprised cause you could not see our position or national headquarters."
Now if that doesn't sound like terrorism, or actually more like anarchy, then I don't know what does.
antirino posted at 3:27 pm on Sun, Aug 21, 2011.
Let’s assume Obama is not a socialist. I’m trying to figure out how a real socialist as president would be acting any different from Obama. Maybe somebody can help me on that one.
Dale Whiting posted at 7:31 am on Mon, Aug 22, 2011.
Ok, I'll restate Rose's position with comments:
1. Fiscal responsibility. [Apparently deficit spending is fiscal irresponsibility. We've spend trillions of dollars on wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, largely off budget. Is this an example of being Fiscally responsible? I certainly hope not. Yet Ron Paul was the only Iowa Tea Party Straw pole candidate who would states so. Coming in second, he was totally forgotten. So don't preach Fiscal Responsibility to me and expect me to swallow it!]
2. Constitutionally limited government. [Government is constitutionally limited and powers are seperated. Care to give us some examples which illustrate otherwise?]
3. Free market enterprise. [By "free" do you mean "laissez faire" totally unregulated markets? Or do you know what "laissez faire" means? Thought not.]
Other than for those who started up the various Tea Party cooalitions and are profitting handsomely from doing so, I have yet to meet an educated, thinking Tea Partier. And if that offends you Tea Partiers, go study the Constitution and its extensive history, study economics and its intracacies, and define what is and what is not fiscal responsibility! I dare you!
NothingButTheTruth posted at 12:59 pm on Mon, Aug 22, 2011.
Then LinMesa, you don't know what it means. We perform our terrorism at the voting box. Not with billy clubs like some Obummer supporters who should be in jail but got a pass by this administration, but by voting. BTW, don't forget to vote, it's the terrorist thing to do these days. lol
A_Rose_By_Any_Other_Name posted at 1:26 pm on Mon, Aug 22, 2011.
Not sure what I stated to tweak your nose Dale, but you do seem to be losing it. Was one of my comments deleted that you're referencing, or is your rant really just a collection of incoherent nonsense that it appears? Really, I couldn't find any statements of mine that you say you are restating. Could you re-restate them with quote marks so I can see what I said?