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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:07 am

“I don’t want Andy Thomas to lose his livelihood. Having studied at the knee of Sheriff Arpaio perhaps he can assist Republican vice-presidential candidate Allen West in ferreting out those 81 card-carrying communists.”

“I am being told by the media that Republicans are in a war on women, but Democrats are head over heels for women! That is as long as they are not Conservative, stay-at-home mothers, that are good looking!”

“Because of all the activists involved in the Trayvon Martin case George Zimmerman is guaranteed a mistrial and will be set free.”

“Lets tax ammo, not old people, to pay for the gun lockers.”

“Hey all you climate change doubters out there, NOAA has just declared last month to be the warmest March on record and the winter months of January, February and March of 2012 as the warmest winter on record. Climate change is real. Doubting Thomases needing to touch and feel this change need to wake up and go outside once in a while.”

“Jon Beydler, I have some advice for you: Next time you want to write another article for the Tribune, don’t. Very few people read your (stuff), and even fewer believe it.”

“Mesa doesn’t have enough money, so we’re doing budget cuts all over. But apparently the police department is still OK with spending our money to send officers to walk in (not security, just there to walk) the Gay Rights Parade in Phoenix this month?! Ridiculous!”

“It’s no wonder congress won’t stop the $4 billion-plus oil subsidies. Congress is just using the oil companies to launder tax dollars for their own campaigns. If they want to use tax dollars for their campaigns, make it legal. Stop turning American taxpayers into a laughing stock.”

“So now we have a politically ambitious Florida State Attorney throwing Zimmerman under the bus. She had already lost the Hispanic vote in Florida for prosecuting a 12yo Cuban-American boy as an adult not for legal sake but to force him to accept a plea deal which he has not accepted but is housed in the adult section of the County Jail because he can’t make bail. Well, the State Attorney can now count on one Minority’s vote in any upcoming election. In her news conference she said “our Prosecution Team promised those sweet parents we would get answers”. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Obama making her a ‘US Attorney’ in the near future.”

“I agree with the April 11 vent that Clarence Thomas is a stooge; but not for Obama. Thomas has always been in the right-wing fringe. The problem is ethics. Thomas and Justice Scalia (who said he won’t read the health care law) are often seen being wined and dined by law firms who are about to argue a case. For this case, Thomas and Scalia went on several resort trips paid for and hosted by the Koch brothers for anti-healthcare interests. Thomas’ wife works for these interests, giving him financial gain (he stopped disclosing his wife’s income these past few years). The Supreme Court doesn’t recognize their own conflicts of interest because they have no Code of Ethics to follow like all other courts in our country.”

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6 comments:

  • chatmandu002 posted at 11:36 am on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    chatmandu002 Posts: 1003

    Vent #1: Thanks for supporting Andrew Thomas and I do hope he helps Allen West get those commies in congress. LOL

    Vent #2: Democrats have their wars and republicans have theirs' with the women caught in the middle. Duck and cover.

    Vent #3: Will the trial be fair? Zimmerman's trial will be like the sacrificial lamb to help appease race relations, kind of like the OJ trial.

    Vent #4: Hey, not a bad idea.

    Vent #5: Most of us realize that the earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling. What we doubt is that humans are the main cause and that we as American taxpayers can't change anything no matter how much you tax us.

    Vent #6: Jon gives me so much material to blog about. Keep it coming Jon. LOL

    Vent #7: Of course they need police protection. That's why they are a "protected" segment of society.

    Vent #8: NO to using taxpayer funds for political campaigns. I don't want to support Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson or anyone else as a professional candidate.

    Vent #9: It's all political.

    Vent #10: Calling out only the conservative judges as not having any ethics. Where is your ethics angst about the liberal judges. OK I understand, take another shot of liberal/progressive coolaide and relax.

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 8:27 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    Yes, chatmandu002, there is a dispute between credentialed scientists and their nay sayers. Care to share with us your credentials?

    Global warming is the rising average temperature of Earth's atmosphere and oceans since the late 19th century and its projected continuation. Since the early 20th century, Earth's average surface temperature has increased by about 0.8 °C (1.4 °F), with about two thirds of the increase occurring since 1980.[2] "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and scientists are more than 90% certain that most of it is caused by increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases produced by human activities such as deforestation and the burning of fossil fuels."[3][4][5][6] These findings are recognized by the national science academies of all major industrialized nations.[7][A]

    2. a b America's Climate Choices. Washington, D.C.: The National Academies Press. 2011. p. 15. ISBN 978-0-309-14585-5. http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12781&page=1. "The average temperature of the Earth’s surface increased by about 1.4 °F (0.8 °C) over the past 100 years, with about 1.0 °F (0.6 °C) of this warming occurring over just the past three decades"
    3. ^ "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice and rising global average sea level." IPCC, Synthesis Report, Section 1.1: Observations of climate change, in IPCC AR4 SYR 2007.
    4. ^ "Three different approaches are used to describe uncertainties each with a distinct form of language. * * * Where uncertainty in specific outcomes is assessed using expert judgment and statistical analysis of a body of evidence (e.g. observations or model results), then the following likelihood ranges are used to express the assessed probability of occurrence: virtually certain >99%; extremely likely >95%; very likely >90%......" IPCC, Synthesis Report, Treatment of Uncertainty, in IPCC AR4 SYR 2007.
    5. ^ IPCC, Synthesis Report, Section 2.4: Attribution of climate change, in IPCC AR4 SYR 2007.
    6. ^ America's Climate Choices: Panel on Advancing the Science of Climate Change; National Research Council (2010). Advancing the Science of Climate Change. Washington, D.C.: The National Academies Press. ISBN 0-309-14588-0. http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=12782. "(p1) ... there is a strong, credible body of evidence, based on multiple lines of research, documenting that climate is changing and that these changes are in large part caused by human activities. While much remains to be learned, the core phenomenon, scientific questions, and hypotheses have been examined thoroughly and have stood firm in the face of serious scientific debate and careful evaluation of alternative explanations. * * * (p21-22) Some scientific conclusions or theories have been so thoroughly examined and tested, and supported by so many independent observations and results, that their likelihood of subsequently being found to be wrong is vanishingly small. Such conclusions and theories are then regarded as settled facts. This is the case for the conclusions that the Earth system is warming and that much of this warming is very likely due to human activities."
    7. ^ "Joint Science Academies' Statement" (PDF). http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf. Retrieved 9 August 2010.
    [A] The 2001 joint statement was signed by the national academies of science of Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, the Caribbean, the People's Republic of China, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Malaysia, New Zealand, Sweden, and the UK.[196] The 2005 statement added Japan, Russia, and the U.S. The 2007 statement added Mexico and South Africa. The Network of African Science Academies, and the Polish Academy of Sciences have issued separate statements. Professional scientific societies include American Astronomical Society, American Chemical Society, American Geophysical Union, American Institute of Physics, American Meteorological Society, American Physical Society, American Quaternary Association, Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society, Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences, Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society, European Academy of Sciences and Arts, European Geosciences Union, European Science Foundation, Geological Society of America, Geological Society of Australia, Geological Society of London-Stratigraphy Commission, InterAcademy Council, International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics, International Union for Quaternary Research, National Association of Geoscience Teachers, National Research Council (US), Royal Meteorological Society, and World Meteorological Organization.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 9:14 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1907

    Dale, your just needlessly killing electrons trying to get through chatmanduu's tinfoil tea party hat.

    They have seen the facts but, to the Tea Partiers, facts are irrelevant.

    Not only do they not need any facts --- they don't WANT any facts.

    When the French Quarter in New Orleans is under water due to the rising oceans as a result of the ice caps melting as a result of climate change ( global warming - although technically correct gives deniers ammunition because a few spots are actually colder ) the right wingers will still deny there is such a thing and insist that even if the earth is warmer man's activities have nothing to do with it.

    Profits for this generation -- the H*E*L*L with the next.

    They figure they will be dead before the oceans rise enough to bother them or before it gets so hot they can't afford to air condition their homes.

    So if it doesn't affect them, it doesn't exist.

    Doing anything about it would cost money and cut into their stock dividends or cause the price of the stocks they own to fall a little bit -- so no way Jose.

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 9:39 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    Willie,

    I know! But there might be some out there who are silent and they need a chance to get the facts. 'chatmandu002' is correct in one aspect and since 1984 I have acknowledged that fact.

    We cannot say when human added CO2 will reach a climatological tipping point, a point of no return when warming seas and melting tundra will begin releasing Methane at an ever increasing rate and we will be unable to reverse this process. Methane-hydrate is the stuff that prevented capturing Methane and crude oil gushing out a mile down in the Gulf of Mexico from being captured. When the temperature gets much above 4 C Methane-hydrate melts releasing Methane, a greenhouse gas 40 times more powerful than CO2. And this same gas escapes from the tundra as it melts and natural degredation does its work.

    So if and when we reach that tipping point, it will be a "river of now return" for global climate change. Climatologists skate this issue! But those of us true conservatives who wish not to take chances with our children's and grandchildren's children would like to see cap and trade put into effect now, not just to avert this tipping point, but to slow the increasingly rapid use of a limited natural resource, crude oil, be it foreign or domestic. chatmandu002 and I agree that energy runs our economy. But being a liberal when it comes to wasting natural resources, chatmandu002 just does not care!

    Isn't is odd that the nation whose GNP is rising most rapidly and with that rise, its consumption of crude oil and coal, is the nation that leads the world in the development of renewable energy sources. And Jon Huntsman once represented the US in that country. He speaks the language.

    So where once we had a "cold war," we may be on the precipice of a climatological hot war. And as always, we know the enemy and the enemy is US.

     
  • chatmandu002 posted at 11:37 am on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    chatmandu002 Posts: 1003

    Dale, Good job of cut and paste. Hope you didn't over burden your computer. At least you do recognize that there is a 10% possibility that these "experts" are wrong. Fact is there nothing we as humans can do to stop global warming. NOTHING. No matter how much you tax us, regulate us or restrict us. Nothing will stop global warming. If we come to a tragic end and all drown, the earth will survive and regenerate.

    AZWille: Why are you so jealous of my tin hat? I'll lend you mine so you can cover that bald head. LOL

     
  • Abstract01 posted at 10:19 pm on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.

    Abstract01 Posts: 136

    Az Willie
    talk about not wanting facts brought to mind a segment of a radio talk show today.

    The host received a call from a lady who didn't want to take welfare food from a charitable organization because it "came off somebody's shelf and had probably been there for a year." While the host tried to ask questions and conduct a conversation, the caller overrode his attempts and continued (almost without breath) for nearly eight minutes (not including a commercial break).

    I wondered how it is that most people of her political persuasion can achieve that? I realized that she (they) do not want to converse, and probably do not know how to discuss. They are not interested in anybody else's ideas, opinions or suggestions. Their attitude seems to be "This is how my world is, and nothin's gonna change it."

    Willie, I don't think she was a Tea Party-type person, but she seems to echo what you wrote!

     

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