The Arizona Department of Public Safety puts out an Annual Reports on Crime in Arizona, which shows that from 2002 to 2011 the number of violent crimes in areas served by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office increased by an incredible 41 percent, from 628 to 884 violent crimes. That’s 256 more murders, rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults than nine years ago.
For the parts of Maricopa not served by the sheriff, there was a 19 percent drop in violent crime for the same period. That’s 3,428 fewer murders, rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults than nine years ago.
If the whole county had been run the way Sheriff Arpaio runs his part, there would have been nearly 8,000 more dead, raped, robbed or assaulted Maricopans.
What words are there for that dismal performance on the part of Sheriff Arpaio? Utter dangerous incompetence.
Bob Unferth
Phoenix
Bluepoet posted at 1:38 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.
I think Joe started out, wanting to uphold and enforce the Law. I have no proof, one way or another, as how can intent be proven? Let's just say that I choose to think positive, on that.
Now, what he found, when he took office, was a giant area to cover, and insufficient manpower to cover it, along with a (relatively) tiny budget, that wouldn't even support the housing of criminals, much less the hiring of more deputies. Met with this, he did what any true Republican would do...he started cutting costs, everywhere he could, and he discovered that, if he set up tents, it got media coverage. If he started serving bologna and three-day old bread, it got coverage. If he dyed the clothing pink, more coverage. And, if he hired "volunteer" deputies, he got coverage, and support, from every gun-totin' drugstore cowboy, in the county...
He went to the public trough, and, through notoriety, he got more money, for his budget. He got to be the darling of the talk show circuit, and the magazine interviewer...
Somewhere, along this road, he lost me, and a lot of other people, who noticed that, here was a guy who, instead of doing his job, wanted to chase the fame, and become a legend, in his own mind.
Joe got his fame...however, we got nothing but lawsuits, wrongful deaths, and racial profiling sweeps. Not to mention selective law enforcement, based on his cowboy image...it's time to ditch the rodeo clown, and find a professional. We don't need a Sheriff who thinks he's the Governor, any more than we need a Governor, who thinks she's the President of Arizonaland.
Arizona Willie has a good point regarding why the media has shifted their stance, about Joe. It may well be because the established business cartel doesn't want their labor pool messed with, except in the headlines. Or, it just could be, they "sense a darkness, in the force"...
For me, it was having a Sheriff who would rather be on the wanted poster, than chase down the real criminals.
mwd2525 posted at 12:10 pm on Mon, Oct 8, 2012.
One more thing un-informed willie.........oops I mean Arizona willie, its not 400 unsolved sex crimes......its 400 sex crimes that did not get investigated you moron.Thats a huge difference. If these crimes were reported and vigorously investigated and not solved then there would be no problem.The fact that they were reported, and detectives were told to NOT investigate but look into a mortgage fraud case instead,etc.Meanwhile a child is repeatedly raped by her uncle as a result of said non-investigation.......THAT is what is outrageous.It didnt happen once twice or three times but 400 cases have been uncovered. I guess you either approve of child rapists running free or you are so uninformed,you just THINK it was 400 unsolved sex crimes.Which???
Rich posted at 9:09 pm on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.
Willie,
Apologies, in a way. My business requires accurate statistics, This requires me to have PHDs to forecast for me, as well as develop trends, know accurate counts and where population goes. It is a private enterprise, and I have no reason to share without being paid (and you have no idea what it costs). Albeit I know for other resons than American politics.Since an earthquake and Tsunami cost me my Tokyo warehouse I spend about 200 days a year outside of the U.S. And Sheriff Joe is a welcome diversion when I get a respite here at home. The U.S. is the major impediment to business internationally, and has been through the reign of Mr. Obama. He is an American, or at least 47% American, he has been patted on the head all his life, even when he was wrong, he can't face the real world. As to Joe, crime is a growth industry, we only catch them half the time. More laws, more criminals, more growth. Can we do better? I seriously doubt it, we choose the people wrong. 51% of the population thinks statistics are facts, if you believe that, you haven't got a prayer. The people who could do a good job, aren't about to get involved.
Just flew in tonight, a bit jet lagged, but I PAY to know, because I have to know, to survive. You know, I'd hire people, but the prospect of X amount of more years of what has happened in the last six tells me, sit on it, it's you against them. And the idea of labor as more than a piece of the puzzle, the idea that work gives you something, is just naive.
In any case, you have a capsule of why it isn't meaningless. You want better, Cal Tech, graduates people every year who can give it to you, all you need to do is pay for it. Government has to be constructed much better than it is before it is anything but criminal activity . Our founders tried, and only created the most corrupt government since Byzantium.
Arizona Willie posted at 10:54 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.
Oh ... so you admit you don't KNOW what policy is --- you are only repeating whispers from unknown people who must remain in the shadows.
I see.
So basically you are claiming rumors are FACTS.
Some people who don't like Joe have whispered sweet sounding BS in your ears and you ate it up because you WANT to believe it.
I suppose this is as close as an admission that you posted BS as we will ever get.
You have admitted you don't have knowledge of the Sheriff's policies you are only repeating rumors.
So my calling BS was correct. Your claim that it was Sheriff Joe's policy to not investigate theft under $100,000 was INDEED BULLCRAP.
bobunf posted at 10:41 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.
Unfortunately I've only had verbal confirmation of this policy from several different individuals, who obviously do not want to go on record. We all know what the Sheriff does to his political enemies; see Judges Donahue and Mundell, Maricopa County Supervisors Wilcox and Stapley, publishers Lackey and Larkin, and others like Barnes, Saban, Sandschaffer, etc., etc. etc.
The Sheriff, of course, doesn't respond to written requests. If you don't believe me, try it.
I'm inclined to believe the people who have told me this because:
1. the Sheriff doesn't respond to a request for information
2. their assertions have plausibility. What else would you expect from Sheriff Arpaio? Really?
I'm still waiting for Chat., but I think we can conclude that he was, indeed, just making it up.
Arizona Willie posted at 8:29 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.
bobunf... you stated as a fact that it was the policy of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office to not investigate theft below $100,000.
Implicit in your statement is a claim that you KNOW what the Sheriff's policy is.
Unless you are a police officer ( or a lawyer ) it is highly unlikely that you do KNOW.
Policies get published. They put policies on the bulletin board and in the Handbooks given to all officers.
Since you claim to be in possession of knowledge of the policy, it follows that you have access to these policies.
All you have to do is scan it in and post it on Photobucket and put up a link here.
You are the one who claims to have intimate knowledge of the Sheriff's policies so it is up to you to back up your claim ... not my job to prove your case for you.
I've called bullsh*t .. up to you to either produce the policy or admit you don't, in fact, know what the policy is.
bobunf posted at 10:41 pm on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.
Willie, the policies of the Sheriff's Office are not available online. Assuredly you know this, so the point of your request was what exactly? I think I can make a pretty good guess.
Try writing the Sheriff's Office with a request for their policy on theft and see what you get. I await with bated, but not held, breath.
And I'm still waiting for Chat's confession that he just made up the nonsense he posted.
Arizona Willie posted at 8:08 am on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.
bobunf ... you said " Theft, for instance. It is the POLICY of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office to not investigate thefts up to and beyond $100,000. "
PROVE IT
Post a link to a policy of the Sheriff's Department that directs them to not investigate or admit you are a liar.
bobunf posted at 1:41 am on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.
I would also point out that Sheriff Arpaio, contrary to Chat's assertion, does not endeavor to "enforce all the laws all the time."
Theft, for instance. It is the POLICY of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office to not investigate thefts up to and beyond $100,000. The Sheriff's Office will give the victim a case number for their insurance company, and do absolutely nothing beyond that. No forensics, no questioning of possible witnesses, no tracking, no analysis of security cameras - no nothing.
Unless, of course, the victim is an important person to the Sheriff or one of his high ranking officers.
bobunf posted at 1:33 am on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.
Aside from being utterly unsupported, Chat second assertion ( "influx of illegals between 2002-2011") makes zero sense.
He does not assert that the "illegals" migrated selectively to areas served by the Sheriff, which would seem pretty silly. Why would they go to areas served by the "tough" Sheriff, rather than more benign areas such as South Phoenix.?
Presumably Chat would, incorrectly, assert that they commit crimes at a higher rate than the general population, which, if true, would push the crime rate up in areas not served by the Sheriff.
All in all it is an illogical and senseless rant supported by nothing.
bobunf posted at 1:14 am on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.
I supplied the source for the data which showed that violent crime was significantly up in areas served by Sheriff Arpaio and significantly down in all other areas. Namely: Arizona Department of Public Safety Annual Reports on Crime in Arizona.
If you don't know to use google, the data is here:
http://www.azdps.gov/about/reports/Crime_In_Arizona/
Chat makes several unsupported assertions:
1. There was an "increase of population from 2002-2011 in the areas served by the MCSO." How do you know this Chat, or are you just making it up?
2. There was an "influx of illegals between 2002-2011." How do you know this Chat, or are you just making it up?
3. "The areas not served by MCSO...didn't experience the same increase in population as did the areas served by MCSO." How do you know this Chat, or are you just making it up?
There is no publicly available information about the populations of areas served by the Sheriff and all other areas of Maricopa County for the years 2002 and 2011.
I call BS.
samkat posted at 5:40 pm on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.
Mike: Just because you happen to be a pro illegal supporter is no reason to bash Joe. After all, who is is keeping the lack of immigration law enforcement in the public eye?
Mike McClellan posted at 4:56 pm on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.
What Bob doesn't understand is that VofReason and Chat actually think the Sheriff is a law enforcement officer.
Why?
Because he arrests illegal landscapers. On TV. Often.
Never mind the hundreds of sex crimes that went uninvestigated while half of the Sheriff's sex crime division was off in Honduras on some sideshow.
Never mind that his arrests of workplace illegal immigrants has led to one -- one -- employer sanction. And that business by then had closed.
Nope. For the VofReasons and Chats of the state, as long as the Sheriff parades a few illegals on local TV, everything is just fine.
What a joke.
VofReason posted at 1:18 pm on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.
That is an indictment of the judicial system not the sheriff. By those statistics, all of the dollars that the incredibly honest John Edwards won from the birthing doctors meant it was all their fualt that children are born with birth defects. Anyone want to bet whether he will be re elected. Didn't think so.
IceCat posted at 12:12 pm on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.
Just yesterday another $1 million settlement in a wrongful death claim along with $1.8 million in legal fees.
Accuracy posted at 8:57 am on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.
“Numbers don’t lie!”
And let's not forget Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio was re-elected by Maricopa County voters in 1996, 2000, 2004, and 2008.
Arpaio had 66.49 % of the votes in the 2000 Maricopa County Sheriff's Office election – 56.74 % in the 2004 election – and 55.2 % in the 2008 election.
Arizona Willie posted at 8:16 am on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.
Remember folks --- according to all the media Sheriff Joe was the greatest Sheriff in the world -- until -- until -- until he began to enforce immigration laws and arrest illegal aliens.
Suddenly he became the WORST Sheriff in American history.
Since he began enforcing immigration law there has been a non-stop 24 hour a day 7 day a week barrage of negative articles about Sheriff Joe in all the media.
Did you ever ask yourself ... why?
Why the dramatic turn around from hero to A-hole?
Almost all the major media is owned by only 6 corporations all of which are owned by wealthy Republicans.
Republican businessmen ( and Democratic ones too -- if the truth were known ) love illegal alien labor.
It increases their profits and frees them from complying with wage and hour laws and workplace safety laws because illegal alien workers can't complain without fear of being deported.
Every bill introduced in Congress for amnesty for illegal workers, so far, has included a provision that the illegal must have an employer / sponsor.
Which makes them indentured servants. They dare not lose their job or they get deported.
When Sheriff Joe began arresting illegal aliens he interfered with the source of illegal labor and employers are NOT happy about that.
So their lapdog media embarked on a campaign to replace Sheriff Joe.
They have had him investigated for years by the Federal Government and despite all the smear articles published about the investigation -- the Fed closed the investigation BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF WRONGDOING BY SHERIFF JOE.
Bluepoet posted at 8:14 am on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.
If reality TV chops was the criteria, I'd still vote Dog the Bounty Hunter over Sheriff Joe, the Fearless Fosdick wannabe...and, we'd be better off, crime-wise.
Statistics are useful tools, but only for mathmeticians and marketing/PR firms.
I think what is desirable, in a Sheriff, is to administer the law, not manipulate the law, for noteriety, or personal gain.
...leave that to the lawyers...
Arizona Willie posted at 8:07 am on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.
Rich, just exactly where did you look up these population figures? Normally census numbers aren't available for a couple of years yet you claim to know how much the population was just last year -- only a few months ago.
Your post seems to be nothing but typical propaganda wherein you pull numbers out of that famous place where the sun don't shine with no references to sources.
Such claims are TOTALLY meaningless.
You quote crime statistics with no sources at all. Same for your population guesstimates.
Posts like that are a waste of electrons.
People like to scream about 400 unsolved sex crimes over Joe's term but neglect to mention how many sex crimes WERE solved or what the ratio of solved to unsolved is ... and how that compares to other Sheriff offices around the nation.
To be sure, 400 isn't good. But I doubt if it is any worse than any other comparable Sheriff's jurisdiction.
Of course nothing matters to lovers of invading aliens but getting Joe out of there so their beloved illegal aliens can work for them in peace and quiet without having to worry about being caught by Joe's officers.
Rich posted at 7:45 pm on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.
Actually chat, if you look it up, you will find the opposite is true. The greatest influx was in the areas not served by MCSO, those areas were relatively stable. The Sheriff is all style and no substance, always has been. He has always talked a better game than he can play. As an entertaining diversion, he's first rate, as a sheriff he's terrible. The problem being, with our system who's going to be any better? Sheriff and reality T.V. star are both pretty demanding jobs, you probably have to pick one or the other to be any good at it.
chatmandu002 posted at 7:15 pm on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.
Bob,
What a shameless and incomplete corruption of facts. You must work for Sheriff Joe's opponent. How about the increase of population from 2002-2011 in the areas served by the MCSO. What about the influx of illegals between 2002-2011? The areas not served by MCSO had defined city limits and didn't experience the same increase in population as did the areas served by MCSO. The next time you want to pontificate about facts then include all the facts.
Go Sheriff Joe, enforce all the laws all the time.