The National Rifle Association would love for everyone to own a gun and have to carry it everywhere. It would fill their selfish wallets. This is why their push for bills that allow guns on “gun free” zones is endless and relentless. Just last year Texas was faced with the same issue Arizona is seeing now for the state college campuses. But Texas intelligently did not pass the outlandish proposed law. “I just don’t want to see a repeat, in Texas, of what happened at Virginia Tech” said Sen. Jeff Wentworth (Texas).
Arizonans would not want to see it either. If the bill ends up passing after all, the fear would be unimaginable. Some of the largest universities in the country will now have the potential to be firing ranges between the students and faculty, most who will not know how to use their weapon very well.
How can students learn or professors teach at their highest level with the anxiety of being surrounded by armed, unpredictable people every day in class? And even if they have their gun (that the NRA wanted them to have) on them, would they have confidence in their ability to use it in self defense? This bill will be the beginning of some major problems rather than creating a supposed safer environment — problems that could be catastrophic.
Zachary Wood
Gilbert
Rational Human posted at 1:53 pm on Fri, Mar 9, 2012.
"The National Rifle Association would love for everyone to own a gun and have to carry it everywhere"? That was as far as I got before LOL at what is probably a really stupid rant against the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution. I wouldn't bother reading any further.
Willbill posted at 7:36 pm on Fri, Mar 9, 2012.
“This is why their push for bills that allow guns on “gun free” zones is endless and relentless.”
“Gun Free Zones” should be called “Kill Zones” because criminals and the deranged know that no one in those areas will be able to defend themselves.
““I just don’t want to see a repeat, in Texas, of what happened at Virginia Tech” said Sen. Jeff Wentworth (Texas).”
Virginia Tech was a “Gun Free Zone,” and that certainly did not stop the attack there.
“How can students learn or professors teach at their highest level with the anxiety of being surrounded by armed, unpredictable people every day in class?”
Nine public universities in Utah, Colorado State University, and Blue Ridge Community College in Virginia allow licensed students and faculty to carry firearms on their campuses. Mississippi and Wyoming now allow it as well. Of course, there have been no shooting tragedies by licensed permit carry holders on those campuses as predicted by the gun ban zealots.
Zachary, since there have been no “Catastrophic” problems at those institutions, what makes you think there would be any different in Arizona?
Masterrogue666 posted at 12:58 am on Sat, Mar 10, 2012.
Wilbill: Thanks for the info....
doctoralstudent posted at 2:44 pm on Mon, Mar 19, 2012.
Mr. Wood,
In 1987 when states first began with "shall-issue" concealed carry, the outcry and newspaper opinions were that there would be unimaginable fear, blood running in the streets, people shooting each other all the time.
When states stopped infringing on people to carry concealed in public restaurants that were ok with the idea that also serve alcohol, the predictions were again published that it was "very bad" and more.
Now when there's a bill to stop college campuses from these same infringements, the same sky-is-falling claims are made.
The above list is much abreviated. But there has been three commonalities each and every time:
1) There is no open-peer-reviewed research to support the claims of fear and catastrophe
2) There is open-peer-reviewed research to support citizen carry = more safety, fewer murders, fewer rapes, fewer violent assaults
3) The results after the fact proved each time that the fear-claims turned out to be flat out wrong.
We currently allow our respected law enforcement officers on campuses, yet for some reason, the students aren't freaking out at the sight of the officer's sidearm. And as much as we love our respected law enforcement officers, it remains that as a demographic, their crime rate is similar to the general population. Compare this to the crime rate of concealed carry permit holders which is many times lower than that.
Looking at other states, there's about 70 college campuses that are affected in which this same thing of citizen carry is taking place. And among those, there has been zero crimes committed by those citizens.
Last, the proposed legislation might have recently received endorsement from the NRA, but the NRA is a late-comer to this party and was not the originator of this at all.
Mr. Wood, your statements are unsupported.
However, Mr. Wood, I must commend you on your writing above. Sure, you have a passionate feeling on this and we have disagreements on premises, research, and outcomes. But I did not notice any logical fallacies that have been so prevalent in other opinions/commentaries in the news. For that, you have my respect as being honorable in your writings.