In 1967, Hank Williams Jr. turned 18 and his country was at war. Married men with as many as four children were serving in the Vietnam War, and casualties were high. Hank decided to show the white feather and stayed at home studying music instead of serving his country.
A Chickenhawk leaves some fairly distinctive footprints, and they lead right to Hank’s music studio. Hank’s absence did not harm the war effort much, because there’s nothing in Hank’s makeup to indicate that he would have made much of a soldier. However, the Vietnam War was fought by a whole bunch of citizens who didn’t want to be there, but who did so out of a sense of duty that Bocephus apparently never felt. Barack Obama turned 6 that year, and I wouldn’t have expected him to show up for Vietnam duty. Which means that however patriotic or unpatriotic Obama is, he was certainly more of a patriot than Hank Williams Jr.
So, Bocephus, carry on with your political mission, but don’t ever identify yourself as having anything to do with veterans. You’re not fit to carry ammo for a real veteran.
Neil Thex
1Lt, Infantry, 25th Infantry Division, 1969-1972
Mesa
bubba posted at 5:01 pm on Tue, Sep 18, 2012.
Romney "chose to go on a mission", and he succeeded. His "mission" was to stay out of a war he supported by carrying signs, but refused to carry a rifle. Romney, Dubya, Cheney and Rumsfeld all had an exit strategy for Viet Nam, but only for themselves. The actual fighting and dying is meant for the "you people".
Cerulean posted at 8:23 am on Wed, Aug 29, 2012.
samkat, I believe that Barack’s granddad worked for an insurance company whose CEO had connections. Those connections got Barack into Punahao and his Grandmother who worked fulltime at a bank (she made most of the money) that paid Baracks tuition through all of his education. His mom no doubt helped pay when she could, however she was struggling to keep herself housed and in school in Indonesia at the time.
And lastly, In my previous post I used the word ‘superlative’ wrong.
So- to correct my post above I will just call rdo3 a pathetic, rotting, vile, stench.
samkat posted at 2:14 pm on Tue, Aug 28, 2012.
Well to settle the first argument, Obama is half black and even though he tries to bury the fact, he is half white.
Now, one of his big boasts is how his poor mother struggled to take care of him and his sibling on food stamps. For the uninitiated, Punahao Prep is a very exclusive school supposedly reserved for native Hawaiians and the well connected. It is funded by the Bishop Foundation. My children did not qualify even though they were enrolled in the local public schools at the same time because being in the military, I lacked the political clout that Obama's white grandfather did.
For grins, my family would have qualified for food stamps since the cost of living in Hawaii was so high but few self respecting military families would even have applied. We just toughed it out until we rotated back to the main land where the prices were lower.
PS: I still have an original copy of my youngest son's Hawaiian birth certificate and I am not even a "birther." :-)
chatmandu002 posted at 11:42 am on Sun, Aug 26, 2012.
Willie, Willie, Willie...... not a good comment.
Leon,
I take your comments just a seriously as I do Willie's. Keep the comments coming.
Arizona Willie posted at 9:18 am on Sun, Aug 26, 2012.
sockratties: nobody ever said that Leon was the brightest bulb on the tree.
Most people here have learned to not take him seriously.
sockratties posted at 8:47 am on Sun, Aug 26, 2012.
california leon…
Once again you’re spreading lies… Your latest claim regards an April Fools hoax from 2009: The following from Snopes.com:
Q: Has a “smoking gun” been found to prove Obama was not born a U.S. citizen? Did he attend Occidental College on a scholarship for foreign students?
A: This chain e-mail is a transparent April Fools’ Day hoax. It fabricates an AP news story about an nonexistent group, and makes false claims about Obama and the Fulbright program.
The claim is that Obama received a Fulbright scholarship for foreign students, proving that he is not a U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be president. Supposedly this was reported by The Associated Press. But the claim is false and the story is a hoax, an April fake.
We contacted The Associated Press just to confirm what should be obvious, that no such news story ever appeared on the news agency’s wires. Jack Stokes, the AP‘s manager of media relations, gave us this statement: “AP: The story purported to be from The Associated Press on April 1 is fake.”
Furthermore, the group that the fake story credits with gaining release of the supposed “smoking gun” documents is also a fake. Searches of news accounts and Internet sites showed no trace of any group called “Americans for Freedom of Information,” until recently. On May 6 such a group did appear, but only as a joke to make fun of anyone who had fallen for the April Fools’ Day gag. An anonymous blogger set up a site calling itself “Americans for Freedom of Information: We Do Not Exist.”
An easy check with several sites provides detailed information about the new phony content of your comments. The other claims you make in your comment have already been soundly disproven. Before you get your shovel out again I suggest you look things up on snopes.com, factcheck.com or a reliable fact checking site of your choice.
Looks like you’re the one who’s partaking of the medical marijuana.
Leon Ceniceros posted at 6:15 pm on Sat, Aug 25, 2012.
First off, Mr. Thex, thank you for your service during the Vietnam War Era. It doesn't make any difference if you served in Vietnam or not. It only matters that you answered your Nation's Call.
Yes, Mitt Romney, like most of the young Mormon men who were eligible for the Draft were deferred and other "gentilies" (non-Mormons) went in their place. Most probably didn't understand what was going on....but the Mormon leaders at the time did. They are all dead by now and their guilt has gone with them. I am sure that Mitt Romney looks in the mirror now and wonders if he should have gone down a different path regarding his deferrment. Hindsight is always 20-20. At the time he of the Draft he probably just didn't want to become another statistic.
But as for portraying Barack Barry Husseing Soetero Obama as the quintessimal "AMERICAN"....you have go to be kidding. He is a Socialist at heart with a touch of Marxism. He has had all of his Occidental College files "sealed". We know he was a heavy marijuana user both at Punahao Prep in Honolulu and at Occidental. There are so many "blanks" in his life of where he lived, who he lived with and what name did he go by. He was friends with the Nation of Islam Founder, the Black Panthers, went to a Black Revolutinary Theology Church. His two "mentors" were a Marxist-Socialist and an Anti-White, Anti-Capitalist, America hater (Reverend Jeremiah Wright)....don't believe me then just go to YouTube and listen to the same sermons that Obama and his wife listened to for 20 years.
So you have a Vietnam Era Draft-deferrer on one hand and a marijuana smoking, Socialist with friends who were "anti-War Terrorist Bombers" (Bill Ayers), Nation of Islam, Black Panthers and America-haters.
I'LL PICK ............MITT ROMNEY...ANY DAY.
Cubs1908 posted at 11:21 am on Sat, Aug 25, 2012.
"i could see myself voting for judge joe brown, he seems to have good judgment."
Every once in a while I see something like this, and it makes me sad that my vote counts exactly the same as the person capable of making such an idiotic observation.
Cerulean posted at 10:49 am on Sat, Aug 25, 2012.
No rdo3, I think you are wrong.
President Obama has done more for women than any other president in history! If you think “that is bad for America”, well, what does that say about you? All kinds of superlatives come to my mind, none of them healthy.
Arizona Willie posted at 10:26 am on Sat, Aug 25, 2012.
rdo3: no matter what you try to claim now, the fact is that your racism slipped out in your comment that " we needed a competent president not a black one. "
The words " not a black one " are an indictment that in your mind NO black person could / should be President.
You made no qualifying statements at that time. Only now when called out on your racism do you try to hem and haw and say you didn't mean what you said.
Who are you Todd Akin?
Don't misunderstand me -- I don't think Obama deserves re-election -- but it isn't his race that is the problem.
Even though I don't think he deserves re-election -- he is 1000 times better than Romney.
A businessman is completely the wrong type of person to run the government.
rdo3 posted at 6:25 pm on Fri, Aug 24, 2012.
no willie. i think there are blacks that could do the job, i dont think obama is one of them. i could see myself voting for judge joe brown, he seems to have good judgment. i remember all the people before obama was elected saying we needed a black president. i'm a vet and know alot of other vets. the vets that like obama are over 90% black. at 90% its not gambling,
willie you want it to be about race its not. remember obama's 2008 primary campaign? he re ran w's 2000 campaign. obama is more like w and romney than clinton. he had alot of promises that turned into excuses. he dosn't have results. i am a dem and i am voting romney. hopefully i am wrong and romney is better, there is a chance of that. and if i am right and romney is as bad atleast the republicans get the blame.
after w the republican party should have been dead. but obama was so incompetent just 2 short years later republicans nearly swept the mid trem. obama is bad for america and hes bad for the dem party. 8 years of obama will mean the death of the dem party unless the pubs were stupid enough to nominate someone even worse than obama. obama has made w the second worst president in historry. obama is not the best the dems have to offer. obama is not the best blacks have to offer.
Arizona Willie posted at 12:32 pm on Fri, Aug 24, 2012.
chatmandu ... rdo3 said " a competent President .. not a black one " which is a qualifier you did not use.
You may think it ... that I don't know.
But his statement implied that a black person could not be a competent President.
His statement revealed that racism was at the heart of his opinion that Obama was not competent.
I don't agree that Mitt is competent. The Federal Government was neither designed nor intended to be run like a business.
Businesses serve their owners / stockholders.
The Government is supposed to serve the people.
Two entirely different functions.
Government needs to be headed by a person who can persuade people to do things ... not someone who thinks he can ORDER them to do things.
There has never been a President with a business background who was a successful President.
Business men can't get it through their heads that they can't order Congress to do his bidding.
The President cannot fire Congressmen --- but Congressmen CAN fire the President.
VofReason posted at 12:28 pm on Fri, Aug 24, 2012.
Wha?
chatmandu002 posted at 12:02 pm on Fri, Aug 24, 2012.
Neil,
Because Hank didn't volunteer for the armed services, he is somehow not patriotic? What kind of logic is that? Was there a requirement to volunteer for the armed services? I thought those that were called for the draft and fled to Canada were the draft-dodgers. Was Hank Williams Jr called up for the draft? Can someone who hasn't served in the armed services be patriotic? Can someone who hasn't served in the armed services support veterans? Your letter sounds so partisan and petty, but thank you for your service.
rdo3,
Williams had his accident in Aug 1975 after Vietnam.
Willie,
We still need a competent president and Mitt is very competent, Obama not so much. Does that make me a racist?
Arizona Willie posted at 11:07 am on Fri, Aug 24, 2012.
rdo3... you were doing ok until you said " we needed a competent president not a black one ", which proves you are a racist.
In your mind no black person could be a competent President.
There is one fact that destroys the entire value of your post == you are a RACIST.
That is why you hate Obama.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think he deserves re-election. But the color of his skin has nothing to do with it.
Despite the fact I don't support Obama, I think he is 1000 times better than Romney.
I just wish there was a good 3rd party candidate because there will be no place to vote for " none of the above " on the ballot.
rdo3 posted at 10:18 am on Fri, Aug 24, 2012.
not a big country fan but did watch a movie about him years ago. he wasn't a draft dodger, he was physically unfit for duty. he took a bad fall while mountain climbing and mangled him self pretty badly, he wasn't expected to live. its also why he has the beard and you never see him shirtless, to hide the scars and disfigurement.
i also am a vet, and obama bowing to muslim leaders but he and michelle trying to grope queen elizabet is much more offensive to me as well as obama blameing america for the worlds problems. obama even let terrorists out of gitmo so they could help set up a new taliban govt in pakistan.. no nam vet would want gays in the military. no real nam vet would be an obama fan......unless they were black and it was a 100% racist reason. we needed a competent president not a black one. hillary as bills surrogate would have had us out of this mess by now, all obama has done is made it worse.
you want to bash americans for supporting the military? yep, you really are an obama voter. ignore the facts. your emporer has no cloths.