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Susan Stamper Brown is a motivational speaker and military advocate and can be reached at susan@susanstamperbrown.com or at www.susanstamperbrown.com

Posted: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:27 am | Updated: 4:44 pm, Wed Aug 24, 2011.

This morning, I double-checked to be sure the word "illegal" was still a word in the dictionary. As of this morning, it still means "criminal, felonious, illegitimate, illicit, lawless, unlawful, and wrongful." However, it is quite obvious, that the longer progressive Democrats have carte' blanche to do what they want, the closer the word "illegal" gets to becoming extinct.

It is difficult to determine who it is this administration is particularly interested in protecting. Law-abiding, hardworking folks who mind their business and turn their attention to providing for their families, seem to fall by the wayside, while the administration focuses on fulfilling President Obama's commitment to "fundamentally transform" America.

As our president jets off to Martha's Vineyard on yet another posh family get-away, it's reassuring to know that in his absence, someone in Washington is watching out for us, or at least they say they are. God bless them, the Department of Homeland Security is working their fingers to the bone to keep us safe - and at the same time, they find a way to justify that ignoring the rule of law regarding the deportation of illegal aliens is for our good, rather than an opportunity to shore up the Latino vote.

To give them credit, the Obama administration was on quite an impressive roll, having deported some 800,000 illegals from 2009 to 2010. Skeptics such as I believed the only reason the administration was following the rule of law regarding illegal immigration was to secure bi-partisan support for the DREAM (Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors) Act. The act failed in the Democratic-controlled Senate in December 2010, in good part, because the bill was perceived nationwide as amnesty for lawbreakers.

Afterwards, it seemed the Administration appeared to continue down the straight and narrow, until, like children who play one parent against another when they don't get their way, leading Senate Democrats begged Obama to adopt the DREAM Act as national policy, despite the bill's failure in Congress. Speaking to a think tank event as late as April 2011, DHS Secretary Napolitano reinforced the administration's stance when she said, "I am not going to stand here and say that there are whole categories that we will, by executive fiat, exempt from the current immigration system - as sympathetic as we feel toward them."

Either the administration was lying, or as I have mentioned in previous columns, they are living in "Bizarro World," where everything is the opposite of normal. Whatever the case, the deportation bus came to a screeching halt August 18, 2011, when the administration announced that the DHS will now re-consider the fate of approximately 300,000 illegals currently facing pending deportation - just as long as they do not have a "criminal record."

Let me get this straight. Those who crossed our borders in a criminal, felonious, illegitimate, illicit, lawless, unlawful, and wrongful way - can stay in our country because they do not have a criminal record? Bizarro.

Dry wells can teach us the worth of water, and in an election cycle when the Obama administration is scraping the bottom of the well for votes, exploiting the Latino electorate makes as much sense in the world of Chicago politics as it does in Bizarro World. Suddenly, and quite conveniently, lawbreakers were morphed into impoverished victims in need of a Democrat Party savior.

America will continue to be the "melting pot of the world," as we welcome with open arms those who cross our borders - legally. Rather than doing the right thing by considering the moral aspects of illegal immigration and its effect on American citizens, it seems Democrats are only concerned with enlarging their voting base. Applauding the administration's immigration flip-flop, Representative Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill. recently said, "This is the Barack Obama I have been waiting for and that Latino and immigrant voters helped put in office."

Once again, the administration is doing what it does best by burying its true intentions under mountains of words, and burying words like "illegal" under mountains of loopholes found in the Democratic process.

Susan Stamper Brown is a nationally syndicated columnist and can be reached at writestamper@gmail.com

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  • chatmandu002 posted at 11:15 am on Tue, Aug 23, 2011.

    chatmandu002 Posts: 1010

    The liberal/progressive/socialist can't get around the question. What part of "illegal" don't you understand? Instead, as you correctly point out, they just don't recognize the word "illegal". And what constitutes a "criminal record"? How serious must the crimes be to constitute a "criminal record"? Will this administration change the definition of serious crimes to allow more illegals to stay?

    You forgot to mention the part about the administration giving work permits to some of the illegals. Is this a ploy for more votes, more revenue or more unemployment for US citizens?

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 3:57 pm on Tue, Aug 23, 2011.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    Susan: HEAR, HEAR! A well written article finally graces EVT! Even with "Latino" votes (They used the word first, but isn't that racist?), I doubt he'll get a second term. In fact, I know QUITE A FEW persons of Mexican/Latino heritage that DISAGREE with giving ILLEGAL ALIENS ANY FORM of AMNESTY!

    Mr. President, you are wrong if you think that the MAJORITY of US CITIZENS will permit this behavior.....

     
  • Accuracy posted at 6:07 pm on Tue, Aug 23, 2011.

    Accuracy Posts: 1926

    Obama plan is “backdoor amnesty” for illegal aliens

    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano outlined the plan for federal immigration authorities to review 300,000 deportation cases of illegal immigrants. Acting under extreme agitation from left-wing open border groups, “Napolitano announced the plan in a letter to a group of senators who support revamping the immigration system,” AP reported.

    The decision for the plan comes following complaints from immigrant communities that President Obama and the Obama administration have been too tough on illegal aliens.

    Republicans, however, are less than thrilled with the ‘Obama Plan to Block Deportations’.

    “This plan amounts to ‘Backdoor Amnesty’ for hundreds of thousands — if not millions — of illegal aliens,” Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said on Thursday, Aug. 18th. "We need to remind President Obama that we elected a president that serves beneath the law and did not anoint a king that is above the law," she said.

    Representative Peter T. King of New York, chairman of the Homeland Security Committee in the House, said the president was making “a blatant attempt to grant amnesty to potentially millions of illegal aliens in this country,” which he called “totally unacceptable.”

    "The administration has again made clear its plan to grant backdoor amnesty to illegal immigrants," U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith, R-San Antonio, said in a statement. "The Obama administration should enforce immigration laws, not look for ways to ignore them."

     
  • Slabside posted at 7:33 pm on Tue, Aug 23, 2011.

    Slabside Posts: 1682

    Obummer is not going to let 20 million future DemocRAT voters go to waste.

     
  • A_Rose_By_Any_Other_Name posted at 9:08 am on Wed, Aug 24, 2011.

    A_Rose_By_Any_Other_Name Posts: 202

    Obummer is setting us up for a disaster. Millions of Americans are out of work, millions of illegals will compete with them openly and millions more will try to join the fray. Obummer is creating a situation that will make it very difficult to cut any budget that might impact things like state and local employment, or the social safety net.

    But cuts must be made if we are to survive as a nation -- setting us up for social friction that may well ignite across the nation. Obummer is creating a crisis that he will not waste.

    In about fifteen months we can elect a president who will rescue us from this disaster. We had better choose carefully.

     
  • Ring of Gyges posted at 10:10 am on Wed, Aug 24, 2011.

    Ring of Gyges Posts: 27

    So what EXACTLY should we do about undocumented immigrants? Using hyperbole (backdoor amnesty, Obummer) to rile up your base adds nothing to the debate. The problem is many have come hear illegally. We know that. So how do we stop it, what do we do with the people here already, and how do we expedite or restrict the work visa process. This is what needs to be discussed. Instead of worrying about how liberals are destroying America and calling people names, you should research the problem, call your lawmaker, organize associations, and do something worthwhile about undocumented immigrants.

     
  • Slabside posted at 2:39 pm on Wed, Aug 24, 2011.

    Slabside Posts: 1682

    We close the border, stop every entitlment that illegals flock here to enjoy, jail employers that hire illegals and watch them leave like rats off of a doomed ship.

     
  • Ring of Gyges posted at 4:24 pm on Wed, Aug 24, 2011.

    Ring of Gyges Posts: 27

    @ Slabeside Close the border? You mean like in Israel and Palestine or like Berlin in 1961? What entitlements to illegals get specifically? How do you prove that an employer knowingly hired an illegal if they (illegals) use fake numbers, or should we "throw them in jail" regardless? Illegals are "rats"? Then why are so many of them graduating form college and asking for legal status in peaceful and intelligent manner?

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 4:28 pm on Wed, Aug 24, 2011.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1917

    People say you can't deport 15 million people but Eisenhower did it.

    There are a lot of things we COULD do. First thing would be to stop all money transfers via Western Union etc. to countries sending us waves of invaders wanting to send money home.

    Second would be to jail any employer caught employing illegals a second time -- or first time if we can prove they recruited them and knowingly hired them. 2 years minimum for first offense.

    Third, require all states to issue new secure drivers licenses with bio-metric data such as optical scan and require the applicant to provide a valid birth certificate ( or other approved proof ) from the U.S.

    If the state refused to do that and wants to be a sanctuary then they receive ZERO Federal funds. Period.

    But Barack " Cave Man " Obama would never consider that.
    He caved in on every issue. Now he wants to back door amnesty all illegals and give them work permits and he also has announced he want to cut regulations on business ( where have we heard that before? ).

    Barack " Cave Man " Obama has been the best President the Republicans ever had.

     
  • Slabside posted at 8:13 pm on Wed, Aug 24, 2011.

    Slabside Posts: 1682

    @Ring of Gyges (obviously an open borders advocate), yes CLOSE THE BODER with the same fencing in use near Yuma. Border crossings there have dropped dramatically there due to the fence configuration.
    The technology is available to track illegals and those that ignore the immigration laws. College education be darned... an illegal is still a lawbreaker no matter what kind of spin you hacks place on it.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 8:39 am on Thu, Aug 25, 2011.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    Ring of Gyges: I agree with Slabside. I don't care how much education one has, a CRIMINAL is still a CRIMINAL despite their level of education. In fact, those that do receive a higher education while KNOWINGLY FALSIFYING the FACT that they are ILLEGAL ALIENS, are even MORE GUILTY of THEFT because they don't pay the CORRECT amount in tuition, et al.

    Slabside is correct that the DUAL FENCE system is working in Yuma. Will a fence STOP ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Of course not, but it will help to reduce the numbers to a trickle which can then be handled by Border Agents manning the border.

    I think that only those persons the applied for LEGAL IMMIGRATION should be given the chance to get employment/citizenship in the USA. NO ONE should be rewarded for CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, even innocent children that parents brought into our country ILLEGALLY.

    Amnesty was given once, to round 2.8 million back in the 80's. Now there's about 5 to 8 times that amount that want it. Giving amnesty will only open the flood gates yet again. The flood gates need to be closed, because the United States Taxpayer is starting to drown under the cost of having so many ILLEGAL ALIENS within our borders. So to answer you question about what do we do with those here: DEPORT THEM and send a message that we will no longer accept ANY ILLEGAL ALIENS on our soil. That is the ONLY WAY that the flood will subside.

    I am worried about how Liberals are destroying this country, and shame on you for stating that I shouldn't be worried! However, I don't call them names, even though I've been called names like: Racist; bigot; et al. I have researched the problem. In fact, 20 years ago, I wasn't that concerned. But after seeing the NEGATIVE AFFECT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION has had on Mesa, AZ (as well as the rest of the USA), I have first hand knowledge of the problem. I do contact my lawmakers, and am organized, and do something about every chance I get to help with the fight against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. The most important thing is VOTE for those lawmakers that share my view. I also voice my opinion for all to see.

    Several years ago, when I started voicing my opinion, it seemed like I was in the minority, and I was insulted and THREATED for my views. However, I did not stop, and will not back down. Now, my opinion is clearly among the majority. I notice that YOU didn't offer any ideas on how to handle the problem. Is that all you do, tell everyone else how wrong they are but don't provide any ideas of your own? Unless it's as I expect, you want blanket amnesty.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 9:16 am on Thu, Aug 25, 2011.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1917

    People say that the invaders who were brought here as children by their invading parents should not be punished for the crime of their parents.

    I agree.

    However, they should NOT PROFIT from those same parental crimes either. They should not be given educations, or amnesty, or work permits.

    If my father embezzeled $500,000 and gave me $250,000 to start a Subway shop I would not be allowed to keep it if / when they caught him. I would not be allowed to profit from my parents crime. Neither should children of invaders.

     
  • Ring of Gyges posted at 9:20 am on Thu, Aug 25, 2011.

    Ring of Gyges Posts: 27

    @Slabside. I am in no way an "open borders" advocate. I think there is something to be said about nationalism and protecting your nations culture/identity. Putting a fence up is not practical and non-effective. The Chinese put up a fence stretching over 5,000 miles and can be seen from space, and they still ended up with a Mongolian King. As far as technology, the border is highly technical. Compare the devices used to track illegals today to that used 10 years ago. There is a huge difference. The real problem is economics. Many Americans will not work for $8.00 an hour busting their tail at a physically demanding job. Yet, $8.00 an hour to a poor Latino in Mexico is a huge sum of money. There is a reason why they come here, and it's because people will hire them. Free market capitalism has created a base for employing cheap labor. I don't blame anyone for not taking a $8.00 an hour job who has a family, because it is a waste of time to bust your tail for such meager wages. The problem of illegal immigration is complicated and has developed into this current mess over decades. As far as some solutions, I would repeal ALL free trade agreements, and punish (tax) companies who outsource their jobs. I would increase the minimum wage to at least $15.00 an hour. I would create some kind of WPA program to employ as many Americans as we can. The more Americans working , the less incentive there will be to hire an illegal. The repeal of NAFTA would allow the Latino to actually earn a livable wage in his own country. As far as amnesty, I would provide a pathway to legalization to the 13 million illegals here now. They would pay some sort fine and go through a background check to get a work number. This is not amnesty. amnesty is complete forgiveness for your crime, without any repercussions. It is impossible for

     
  • Ring of Gyges posted at 9:23 am on Thu, Aug 25, 2011.

    Ring of Gyges Posts: 27

    Woops. It is impossible to deport all 13 million people. It sounds tough and manly, but it's impossible logistically.

     
  • NothingButTheTruth posted at 9:32 am on Fri, Aug 26, 2011.

    NothingButTheTruth Posts: 652

    Ring of Gyges, you obviously must have just joined the illegal immigration debate. We don't have to deport anyone. All we have to do is cut off the jobs and services, including squat and spit out automatic citizens to illegal aliens and they self deport. Now that the Obozo has given the green light, we will be overrun with illegals wanting to come here. Putting up a fence has been very effective where it was properly done. It's just not that complicated at all. Make it a REAL PUNISHABLE crime to hire illegal aliens, cut off all welfare services to illegal aliens, Don't allow then to have drivers licenses or be able to get credit cards or even housing, and what the heck to you think they will do? Self deport. With what little Arizona has accomplished and a few other states have followed, we have made a dent in the overall population who is already self deporting back to Mexico or to states that will harbor them, for now. You talk about many Americans will not work for $8.00 an hour busting their tail at a physically demanding job. Maybe we shouldn't be asking these poor people to work at slave wages and harsh conditions just because it's so much better than where they came from. Maybe our economy will have to adjust some when they are gone too, but whatever the outcome we will be better off as a nation when we have operational control of our borders, all the illegals here now are gone, and we reform our immigration laws to what makes sense for our needs instead of the worlds needs.

     
  • Ring of Gyges posted at 8:11 pm on Fri, Aug 26, 2011.

    Ring of Gyges Posts: 27

    NBTT-How is it obvious that I am just joining the illegal debate? Are you a veteran of illegal debates or something? I agree with you that wages in this country are too low, because they have not increased in the last 35 years. That alone would put a huge dent in the amount of illegals entering. Yet, the free trade agreements, and the "war on drugs" also need to be addressed. If these items are deliberated on, not debated, then we can get somewhere. But calling the President "Obozo" and other names leaves very little room for negotiation. We all know that border fence proponents have all been called racists and other names, so there is no need to even mention that here. You claim that there needs to be "real punishable" laws for hiring illegals. Arizona passed an e-verify law in 2007, and maybe a handful of businesses have been charged for hiring illegals. Only about 10 % of businesses have even signed up for it. My question is, how can a fence prevent people from coming here, when they are trying to escape deplorable living conditions, drug cartels, and economic uncertainty? It won't. Latinos are so desperate to leave their country, they will walk in 115 degree heat to find an $8.00 an hour job. You think a 20 foot fence will deter them? You're going to have to shoot them if you want them to stop coming. I agree that if the economic measures you and I mentioned are realized, many of the illegals will self deport. But this animated fervor for a fence is farcical.

     
  • NothingButTheTruth posted at 10:36 am on Sun, Aug 28, 2011.

    NothingButTheTruth Posts: 652

    It's pretty obvious that when you say it's impossible to deport all the illegal aliens in America that you haven't been paying attention to either the problem or the solution.

    "Arizona passed an e-verify law in 2007, and maybe a handful of businesses have been charged for hiring illegals. Only about 10 % of businesses have even signed up for it." Did you maybe miss the fact that that bill was put on hold until just recently when the US supreme court finally ruled it constitutional or that that bill makes it now mandatory that all businesses to sign up? We try to pass a law to address the problem that some say cannot be fixed, and the liberal opposition takes us to court to stop us from trying to correct a problem that some say cannot be fixed. 5 years later we can start enforcing the law. Obozo the clown, The Obamanation, professional community organizer, socialist helping to bring down this capitalist country from within, call him what you like he is not my president. Yes, the fence will work. Where it has been properly built it has been very effective at decreasing illegal immigration to a trickle, but it is only one strategy for accomplishing national border security.

     
  • Ring of Gyges posted at 12:47 pm on Mon, Aug 29, 2011.

    Ring of Gyges Posts: 27

    Socialist? Come on now. Throwing out hyperbole like "socialist" and "liberals" "community organizer" brings nothing new to the table. You made some good points about job creation in your previous posts, but now you're getting ideological and silly.

     
  • NothingButTheTruth posted at 9:40 am on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    NothingButTheTruth Posts: 652

    You are right. Socialist, liberal, community organizer are nothing new when talking about the head socialist community organizer that became president. Of course it never ceases to amaze me the you fools elected this incompetent though.

     
  • Ring of Gyges posted at 4:25 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    Ring of Gyges Posts: 27

    I didn't vote for the President. I hold no political affiliation at all. Yet, I am a citizen and hold civic virtue as a means to becoming a better person. Let's look at the facts, since you seek nothing but the truth. The President is far from being a Socialist. Just look at his economic team he put in place at the beginning of his administration. Rubin, Summers and Geithner are not exactly Trotsky, Lenin, and Kamenev. In fact, they are followers of the Alan Greenspan school of capitalism- hands-off regulation (laissez faire). The health care issue was also nothing more than a gift to private insurance, because it expanded its clientele to include almost all Americans. If he was a Socialist, would he not have advocated for State run health insurance, State run hospitals, and State run doctors? Let's look at the word Socialism itself. That word means absolutely nothing in today's vernacular. All it means is something that we don't like. Anything we don't like, it's labeled Socialist. You can blame the President all want to, but the blame for the ill's of this country should be placed on you, me and everyone else who is a citizen. The fact that you are willing to post on a forum dealing with politics is a testament to your faith in democracy, but the means of which you peruse democracy are clouded in myth and exaggeration.

     
  • A_Rose_By_Any_Other_Name posted at 9:48 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    A_Rose_By_Any_Other_Name Posts: 202

    It is most telling Ring of Gyges how you reduced TheTruth's disclosure of how woefully uninformed you are on this issue into an attack on how he describes dear leader. What about the e-verify law passed by Pearce in 2007 that was just ruled constitutional by the supreme court?

     
  • Ring of Gyges posted at 8:59 am on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    Ring of Gyges Posts: 27

    Yes, Rose By Any....we have discussed the e-verify law, which was passed by the voters, not Pearce, in 2007. It's called a proposition.

     
  • NothingButTheTruth posted at 3:15 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    NothingButTheTruth Posts: 652

    No, it's called an act, and you are still uninformed.
    Arizona's Fair and Legal Employment Act or Arizona's Legal Workers Act That was an act passed by Arizona's legislature under Senate President Russell Pearce.

    AUTHOR OF HISTORIC LEGISLATION:

    * SB1070 - Arizona's "Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhood Act", supported by 3 to 1 across America and with 25 states writing legislation modeled after SB1070
    * PROPOSITION 200, in "04 also know as Protect Arizona NOW, garnered headlines because it required proofer of citizenship to register to vote, Photo ID to cast your ballot, and proof of legal eligibility in order to receive any taxpayer funded benefits.
    * Prop. 100 (in"06) No Bail for Illegal Aliens arrested for serious crimes a Constitutional Amendment
    * Prop. 102 (in '06) No Punitive damages to an illegal alien who sues an American Citizen
    * Prop. 103 (in '06) Making English the Official Language in Arizona
    * HB2779 (in '07), or Arizona's Fair and Legal Employment Act or Arizona's Legal Workers Act, the toughest Employer Sanctions bill in the nation
    * SB1108 (in '10), Arizona's Freedom to Carry Act, which restores to law abiding citizens their Constitutional right to gear arms, open or concealed
    * SCR1031 (in '10) Arizona's Constitutional Amendment to eliminate Affirmative Action
    * Prop. 102, Arizona's Marriage Amendment Act to protect Marriage between a Man and a Woman
    * Also sponsored Arizona's version of TABOR, "Arizona's Taxpayer Bill of Rights"

     
  • Ring of Gyges posted at 7:12 pm on Sat, Sep 3, 2011.

    Ring of Gyges Posts: 27

    NBTT, thanks for the refresher list about the great Arizona patriot Russell Pearce's fantastic laws. Prop. 202 was in 2008 not 2007. My mistake. There's been so much legislation the past 5 years, it's hard for me to remember the particulars without doing a little research. Prop 202 was defeated by the voters. From what I remember, 202 changed Arizona law that prohibits employers from intentionally or knowingly employing an alien who is not authorized under federal law to work in the United States. Under 202, the definition of "knowingly employ an unauthorized alien" would be changed to require actual knowledge by an owner or officer of the employer. So regardless of whether it's legislative action, voter referendums or propositions, the laws in your list are all symbolic in nature, with almost no enforcement. Here's a list of my greatest hits. Prop. 103-making English the official language. 'Protect Arizona NOW!" That's my favorite one. Or how about the "GIITEM" (Get'em) on line 20 page 3 of the SB 1070 legislation. That's a whole host of legislation, or "big government" for such a small percentage of the population. Isn't the Great Arizona patriot being recalled? Some guy named Jerry Lewis is going to take a shot at him. I guess his "HISTORIC LEGISLATION" is historic for the wrong reason, even in his own district. I guess it's the Socialist's fault. They are taking over Mesa, then Maricopa, and then the whole State!

     
  • Ruthlin posted at 12:24 pm on Mon, Sep 5, 2011.

    Ruthlin Posts: 1

    Immigration violations are civil offenses, not criminal. So, according to your own dictionary definition, undocumented status is not strictly "illegal."

    It is all very well and good to say that people should follow correct procedures to immigrate to this country and in theory I agree with you. The problem is that the procedures do not work and the system is not functioning. For the vast majority of people coming here without documentation is the only way of coming. When people make the choice to cross the border and live here without documentation, it is not because they get generous benefits from the U.S. tax payer. Their children DO get to go to school (for now), but who are we that we begrudge a child an education? They cannot get food stamps, medicaid, or any other government benefits that American citizens such as myself can fall back on. Nor do they get the protection of the law, which leads to the abuse of their labor, their bodies, their lives.

    Despite these risks people still come here because the conditions they face at home are still worse, and because they dream of something better for themselves and their children. They ARE hardworking, law-abiding people. We should not call them "illegal" because NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL. To call someone "illegal" or "alien" is to dehumanize them. It allows people to call for mass deportation regardless of its inevitably tragic results.

    I know that as Americans we all come from different backgrounds, but as a Christian myself, I am called to seek and serve Christ in all persons, regardless of their immigration status, level of education, or color of skin. And as an American, I always learned that we were founded upon the premise of equality, and that our 200+ year history attests to the power of that idea, as we have struggled to attain it for women, people of color, people of various ability levels, etc.

    We need functioning immigration policy, and that must include making immigration legal and possible, accommodating those who are currently here without documentation but living peacefully and productively (call it amnesty if you want. It's a word of mercy), and fixing our trade policy so that those in the global south are not mired in poverty and we in the U.S. can create and keep good jobs.

    "Dear Lord, we who are
    divided
    unloving
    prejudiced at times
    inclined to misunderstanding
    intolerant

    Make us instead
    united
    loving
    open to learning
    understanding and forgiving
    tolerant

    May your Spirit be present in us as you are in all peoples."

     
  • NothingButTheTruth posted at 8:09 am on Sat, Sep 10, 2011.

    NothingButTheTruth Posts: 652

    Ruthlin, I don't know where you're getting your nonsense, but a first offense of entering our country illegally is a misdemeanor and the second offense is a felony. I don't understand how you people have been led to believe illegal isn't illegal, but I assure you it most certainly is.

    "When people make the choice to cross the border and live here without documentation, it is not because they get generous benefits from the U.S. tax payer." More BS! Besides free school they qualify for food stamps, free medical and all the other many social welfare programs designed for the poor. They are virtually overrunning our social welfare system to the point that our nation can no longer care for our own. While they work our own citizens collect unemployment. Employers reap a whirlwind of profit because we pay for these workers benefits instead of the illegal's employers. There are so many negatives to allowing both this illegal invasion and the legal one as well to continue that it surprises me that so many of you are falling stupid to this crime. Do you want to become a third world country?

     
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