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Letter: Obama decisions don’t say ‘job creator’

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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:16 am

President Obama appears to be lost in all his rhetoric relating to outsourcing jobs. It is a well known fact that he has Jeff Immelt, CEO of GE, as one of his CZAR’s providing advice to him on job creation in the country. Immelt and GE has outsourcesed over 2,000 jobs to China during the past four years.

Apparently the President forgot to tell Immelt what the job entailed.

Obama is knowingly aware that the Defense Department is outsourceing critical military spare parts from China. It is reported that many of these spare parts are faulty and have been creating problems and endangering the lives of our Military personnel.

Does anyone know what this so-called amateur accomplished as a community organizer in Chicago?

What was his voting record as a senator? Did he ever show up to vote?

I think it’s time for the “rock star” be taken out to pasture.

Please don’t step in the “waste” the star has professed during his tenure. He even counts his 20-plus “CZAR” appointees as a job creator. The lad is dillusional.

Jeannie Rivard

Chandler

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26 comments:

  • downtownresident posted at 12:04 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    downtownresident Posts: 768

    Well, one thing's for sure. The Mormon challenger certainly has experience at shipping jobs overseas.
    And tearing businesses apart to make more obscene profits at our expense.
    At least Obama can relate to normal people. Mit, the Mormon, silver spoon in mouth, luxury cars and speed boats to boot has never had a real life experience.

     
  • Gary Sheffer posted at 12:44 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Gary Sheffer Posts: 1

    Gary Sheffer from GE. Unfortunately, the letter writer has her facts wrong about GE. GE has not outsourced 2,000 jobs to China. In fact, since 2009 GE has added about 15,000 jobs in the U.S. and is building 16 new factories. These new jobs include jobs that are returning to the U.S. from China to build GE's new line of appliances. For more on these new U.S. jobs, visist www.gereports.com.

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 1:44 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Leon Ceniceros Posts: 2536

    All the "Obama-fluffers" might want to read some facts about their....MESSIAH....

    US Sovereign Debt Rating downgraded under Obama = 1st time in American History.

    Federal Government Spending = highest since World War II.

    Budget Defict is now 10% of G.D.P. = highest since World War II.

    Only 58.1% of the US Work Force is employed = lowest since 1983.

    Long-Term Unemployment is now at 41.9% of the American Work Force = highest since the 1930's Depression.

    The US now has the slowest Job Growth since 1965 = 29 months.

    Only 49% of Working Americans pay Income Tax = lowest in the Modern Era.

    47% of all Americans are now US Government dependent (Unemployment, Social Security, Disability, Welfare, HUD, Section-8, Food Stamps) = highest in American History.

    Welfare costs to the Federal Government are now at $1 Trillion Dollars = it was only $50 Billion in 1965.

    There were only 23 Million Americans on Food Stamps under President Clinton, only 23.5 Million under President George W. Bush = there are now ....40 Million Americans using Food Stamps under.....President Barack Hussein Obama.

    TIME TO PUT AN END TO AMERICA SLIDING INTO ....."SOCIALISM"...AND BECOMING A ........BANKRUPT....3RD WORLD DEBTOR NATION.

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 2:00 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Leon Ceniceros Posts: 2536

    Oh....and as for ...........GE (remember General Electric...used to make things in America back in the 1950's and 1960's....yes, that old "made in America" General Electric).

    Well, now...........General Electric has more employees.......OVERSEAS....than GE has employed in the good old US of A.

    The GE that earned $5 Billion dollars in 2011 and paid ........NO AMERICAN INCOME TAXES.

    The General Electric that is moving it's ...115 year old....X-RAY Division to CHINA...from.....WAUKESHA, WISCONSIN, US of A.
    Yes, GE will be spending .....$2 BILLION DOLLARS.......to train.....65 CHINESE ENGINEERS and create ....6 RESEARCH CENTERS.....in....CHINA.

    IS THAT THE GE (GENERAL ELECTRIC) THAT THE.........COMMENTER....WAS REFERRING TO ???????

     
  • Cerulean posted at 2:22 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1331

    blah, blah, blah, complain on Ms Rivard.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 3:23 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1909

    Just exactly HOW is Obama supposed to create jobs?

    First the Republicans claim jobs are created by the super wealthy and they need more tax cuts in order to create more jobs.

    So they got more tax cuts ever since Reagan but where are the jobs? Certainly not in America.

    So the American people got skrood once again by the Republicans.

    If Obama starts a government program that creates jobs, working on the nations infrasturcture for example, the Republicans accuse him of swelling the government payrolls.

    Obama can't create any jobs in Private Enterprise so just exactly how is Obama supposed to create jobs?

    And, for that matter, Republican candidates proudly proclaim themselves to have been job creators and believe that qualifies them to run the country.

    Just exactly HOW would a Republican President create jobs?

    Same way Bush did --- by starting a couple of wars?

    The United States Government was neither founded nor designed to be operated like a business.

    A business man is the wrong type of person entirely to be running things.

    They think they can just issue a command and everyone will do what they say.

    No one ever told Congress about that.

    A Republican President cannot fire members of Congress who don't go along with him.

    Which is a shame because Obama would have cleaned house.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 3:29 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1909

    There is one way Obama could create jobs, possibly.

    Companies are sitting on trillions of dollars and not hiring.

    He could issue an executive order that every company with 50 or more employees must hire AND RETAIN one more employ for every 50 currently employed.

    If a company fails to do so they get a 20% penalty / surcharge on their income taxes.

    But of course the Republicans would scream bloody murder about that too.

    Because when it comes right down to it == there is nothing Obama could do to please Republicans except resign.

    I bet they would love Biden [smile]

     
  • Cerulean posted at 4:04 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1331

    US Sovereign Debt Rating downgraded under Obama = 1st time in American History.

    Because Republican's played dare devil games with threats of not paying our country's bills. And they are threatening to do that again. Republican failures are the reason for the downgrade. [thumbdown]

    Ask a Republican if they want to reduce the deficit by 4 trillion, like President Obama did ask - Republicans don't want to do that either. [thumbdown]

    Good comments Arizona Willie. [thumbup]

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 4:19 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Leon Ceniceros Posts: 2536

    CERULEAN....WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR MORE ..."AUTHENTIC"....PEACE SYMBOL ICON.....YOU KNOW THE ONE SHOWING THE ...SAN FRANCISCO/BERKELEY, "HANOI' JANE FONDA, HURL INSULTS AND WORSE AT RETURNING VIETNAM VETERANS,......"FOOTPRINT OF THE AMERICAN CHICKEN"...THAT SYMBOL......WHY DID YOU GET RID OF THAT = IT WAS SO ..."YOU".

     
  • chatmandu002 posted at 4:44 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    chatmandu002 Posts: 1005

    Jeannie,
    Obama tried, it didn't work. With no hope and no change let's hold Obama to his word and make him a one term president. It's OK that we have HOPE we can make the CHANGE to a new leader.

     
  • onerebel posted at 4:46 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    onerebel Posts: 419

    Liberalism 101. Demonize anyone who doesn't agree with you, and then blame them for your failures!!
    Liberalism 102, Bribe the voters with promises of free stuff, and when the cost causes higher taxes and debt, blame the other side for it !!

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 5:52 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1909

    Umm, onerebel, don't look now it might shake your vision of the world.

    But the fact is --- it was CONSERVATIVES who started two unfunded wars and the Medicare Prescription benefit -- also unfunded, and then borrowed the money instead of raising taxes and paying as we went.

    CONSERVATIVES DID THAT == NOT LIBERALS.

     
  • onerebel posted at 7:06 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    onerebel Posts: 419

    If memory serves me right Democrats also voted to fight those wars. One against a country that harbored terrorist that attacked us. Do you Liberals think we should have just bent over and let the terrorist attack us ? So what does this have to do with the fact Obama is guilty of out sourcing jobs, the same thing he is hammering Romney for ? Or is this Liberalism 103, when faced with the fact your being hypocritical change the topic?

     
  • Cerulean posted at 7:32 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1331

    If memory serves me, then Sen H. Clinton said that the decision to go to war is the Presidents. She said that she did not believe it was her job to thwart then President Bush on his decision at such a time (I am paraphrasing).

    She, and many other Democrats (although I did not agree with them), were being statesmen and women. That is a good thing. I wish Republicans would act more like statesmen and women and less like little tyrants.

     
  • onerebel posted at 8:16 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    onerebel Posts: 419

    OK Cerulean, if you want to change the original topic also, answer me one question. What would you Liberals have proposed that the United States SHOULD HAVE DONE after the attack on the twin towers ? I'm not asking about the Iraq war, just the other one. When asked, I have never received a clear answer by anyone opposed to that war.

     
  • Engaged Voter posted at 9:03 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Engaged Voter Posts: 1070

    onerebel, your logic is specious.

    After Pearl Harbor, would you have clamored to go to war with Indonesia and Laos? Even though it was the Japanese who attacked us?

    Of course not, that would be stupid beyond belief.

    And yet, after terrorists from Saudi Arabia attacked us, that is exactly what we did...we went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan when we should have retaliated against Saudi Arabia.

    There's your clear answer.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 10:15 pm on Sun, Jul 29, 2012.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1909

    Engaged Voter --- you are correct.

    If memory serves me -- all but two of the 9 / 11 terrorists were Saudis.

    Irag definitely was not involved at all but that is who Bush the Lesser attacked first.

    Fed the country a bunch of lies about WMD's to scare everybody into going along.


     
  • CSalafia posted at 5:53 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    CSalafia Posts: 200

    Jeannie says "Obama is knowingly aware that the Defense Department is outsourceing critical military spare parts from China. It is reported that many of these spare parts are faulty and have been creating problems and endangering the lives of our Military personnel."

    As one who works in the Defense industry, I can say this is utter BS. ITAR regulations forbid the use of parts from countries like China in defense articles. This is just another example of conservatives making things up out of whole cloth.

     
  • Cerulean posted at 8:48 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1331

    To add; There may have been a reason to invade Iraq, but the reason was not weapons of mass destruction. The debate that never occurred was our energy policy and lives that were lost for oil. Iraq was not about terrorism. Iraq was about securing oil reserves from Russia.

    ** I think President Obama did what should have been done to Osama bin Laden, and his cohorts. He was found and buried in the deep dark sea.

    onerebel, I do not want to change the subject. I think you should re-read Gary Sheffer’s and C Salafia’s posts.

     
  • pnutman posted at 9:35 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    pnutman Posts: 56

    Salafia you are just sooooo BAD with your BS. I won't name drop myself as a frame of reference, one must just be AWARE of the world around you. My frame of Reference is a Senator, I don't know if the name rings a bell with you, it is a guy named John MCcain, and he messes around with a group called the Senate Armed Forces committee...His testimony (matter of record) and his complaint to DOD relating to the same INFORMATION which was referred to in my comments.
    While we are playing the game of Name dropping, I messed around with DOD for 24 plus years, and feel that you are not qualified to carry my "bags"...Go call Johnny Mac's office and get your info correct....

     
  • Cerulean posted at 10:44 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1331

    pnutman,

    If Sen McCain knows what is going on – why is he not doing something about it? Do we pay him simply to complain to the DOD. Where is Senator McCain's leadership, what steps has he initiated to end the practice of outsourcing critical military spare parts? Is he completely incompetent?

     
  • onerebel posted at 8:09 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    onerebel Posts: 419

    There you have it folks. The Liberals that call Republicans war mongers for going to war against AL-Qaeda terrorist groups, that were mostly but not all Saudi Arabian's. Operating unchecked out of bases in ( Afghanistan), say we should have attacked one of the few Arab countries we consider an ally instead. Was the Saudi government backing Al-Qaeda? If so, is there proof ? To Ask you a question Enraged Voter. Did we attack and fight the Japanese only in Japan ? Or did we fight the Japanese in any and all countries they were based out of ?

     
  • pnutman posted at 10:45 am on Tue, Jul 31, 2012.

    pnutman Posts: 56

    Cerulean, a lesson in Govt...I earlier thought you had no Idea on what you Post and you again reaffirmed it....Govt Lesson 1..Taught in the 7th grade....The House and Senate both have Committees relating to Armed Services---McCain (R) is in the Majority in the Senate, they can do a pretty good job in manipulating Defense Spending, (did you get that?)....Stay tuned on how Panetta and his wild band of "Free Loading" civi's react to not only McCain's tirades but other Senator's of the same ilk.
    Lindsey Graham and friends...Then the Budget goes to the House, How do they respond to the same --o'h they also appropriate $$$$...Stay tuned my friend and suggest you get a book called "WE THE PEOPLE", altho it is primarily read by middle school and HS....Then POST something which makes sense.

     
  • Cerulean posted at 12:09 pm on Tue, Jul 31, 2012.

    Cerulean Posts: 1331

    pnut, you are a belittling boy – good for you.

     
  • sdjtaz posted at 11:54 am on Wed, Aug 1, 2012.

    sdjtaz Posts: 127

    This letter is simply an attempt to deflect attention from the Bain mess. Let's look at the facts:

    1. The best index for job creation/loss for a President is to use the budget cycle that they are directly responsible for. The President is elected in November, takes office in January, but their first budget does not go into effect until October. Using these numbers, Bush's first four budgets saw modest annual gains of .51% and his second budget saw job losses averaging .84 %. Most of the lost jobs came in the last budget year. During the Obama administration, we have had a net annual job creation increase of .84%.

    2. For the Tea Partiers, under Bush we actually saw an increase in public sector (government jobs). That trend has significantly changed and we have seen a significant decrease in public sector employment. This translates to a loss of around 600,000 public sector jobs. Compare those numbers to two term Republicans Presidents, Reagan a net gain of public sector jobs of 1.4 million jobs and under George W. Bush a net gain of 900,000 public sector jobs. Actually, under Obama we have had the largest gain of private sector employment since 2005. These numbers have been offset by the job losses in the public sector. I still find it amazing that the Tea Partiers still believe that the Republican Party is for small government. It shows their level of intelligence.

    3. Regarding the outsourcing of parts from China, the writer obviously does not know what she is talking about. She implies that the DOD has a contract with the Chinese, which is utter BS. WE DO NOT HAVE MILITARY CONTRACTS WITH CHINA (caps intended, so that the thickheaded here will get the point). Instead, an inventory by the DOD has found that several computer chips in their inventory turned out to be counterfeit, probably made or refurbished in China. These electronic parts were purchased by legitimate US-based defense contractors. The DOD is currently working with the contractors to correct this and no loss of life is attributable to these counterfeit part. BTW, although the Jeannie implies that Obama approves of this. Instead, Obama is allowing the DOD to correct the problem on their own.

    4. Downgrading the soveign debt rating came at a time when Radical Republicans refused to work on finding a compromise on the US budget and any attempt to lower the deficit. The refused to play unless they got everything that they wanted. Sorry, but politics don't work that way and the blame lies squarely on the Republicans, not on Obama (who was willing to compromise and find a solution).

    5. Onerebel, you are right. The Democrats did vote the two wars. However, they did so based on slanted data that they received from the Bush administration. One only has to remember Colin Powell's speech to the UN showing alleged sites of weapons of mass destruction. None of these sights turned out to have any WMD's and is a perfect example of how the administration misled everyone. I also find it funny that you complain about liberals demonizing anyone who disagrees with them. Especially shortly after Crazy Right Wing Leon performed a character attack on Cerulean.

    6. GE is a large multinational company that both builds and supplies a variety of products world-wide. They currently and always have had a strong employment record in the United States. However, all multinational companies will have overseas plants. This is why Fords are made in Mexico and Toyotas are made in the United States.

     
  • pnutman posted at 7:21 pm on Thu, Aug 2, 2012.

    pnutman Posts: 56

    To suggest BO is not creating many Public Sector jobs, suggest you catch up with the figures as he has on the Employment List for IRS alone, last I read over 3K jobs for IRS just to hunt down all the folks relating to OBAMA-MISCARridge Program.
    More on the Horizon

     

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