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Posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 am

"The type cynicism I read in the Vent, in the Letters to the Editor, as well cynicism and sarcasm that I hear on the cable news is paralyzing the country. We blame the Republicans, then the Democrats, Congress, the President, the previous President, Wall Street, the poor, and everyone in between. We are the owners of our providence, yet we do not blame ourselves for where we are. These Vents are a microcosm of our country: dysfunctional."

"All of you Yellow Dogs in Pima County who want to secede from Arizona - I have an idea. Why don't you all apply for Mexican citizenship? Then you can hate Republicans, Arizona, and the United States unfettered by rules or by conscience."

"Want to prove humans are only animals and not necessarily a ‘higher' form of animal? Hold a Walmart ‘Black Friday' sale."

"Yet again this year, ‘Black Friday' has proven that retailers will never go broke by overestimating the moronic mindset of the American shopper!"

"After Black Friday I wondered if this past holiday was Thanksgiving or Thanksgetting."

"If ASU can't beat ‘Bezerkley' on Senior Night at Sun Devil Stadium on a nationally televised game, then you don't deserve to go to any Bowl Game no matter how far down the list it is."

"The NBA millionaires are possibly going back to work on Christmas. Obama is really excited because he can count these millionaires as jobs he has created for his monthly bogus jobs report. I guess if I want a job, I'll have to learn how to play basketball."

"In the Sunday Letters To The Editor section, I am fed up to see another liberal Democrat, Edward F. Murphy of Mesa, do what they do best, and that is to spin the truth!"

"Mr. Edward F. Murphy, you are wrong about Bush. He raised the deficit by only $400 billion, while your precious Obama has raised it in three years by $14 trillion. You want facts? Try listening to Hannity or Rush. They'll tell you the truth, even when it hurts."

"In Mr. Murphy's (letter to the editor) on Sunday he accused another editorial writer of drinking too much Kool Aid and not having his debt figures correct. But after fact checking, it appears that Mr. Murphy's figures are incorrect. Maybe someone spiked Mr. Murphy's Kool Aid!"

"To the ‘pained' person who thinks we should all just get along: The only way to deal with these bleeding heart liberals is ‘We win, you lose.' The Soviet Union could not take our country down, but these pinko commie liberals will do it if we let them. What is not to despise? They are wrecking our nation. I despise liberals and I have the utmost contempt for RINOS. That would include all of you who voted for Jerry Lewis."

 

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8 comments:

  • truth posted at 8:24 am on Wed, Nov 30, 2011.

    truth Posts: 806

    The Republicans claim the high road on morality except when it come to their politicians who cant keep their zippers up. The other day I was at a restaurant and over heard two TEA PARTY members talking one said his wife was pregant for the fourth time and the other said it was the liberals fault. Time for the truth check ZFACTS.COM or THINK PROGRESS.COM or listen to FOX NEWS.

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 9:17 am on Wed, Nov 30, 2011.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    First Venter & "truth"

    I've often said we need to look ourselves in the mirror. We are the problem, not them. Just read "truth" and see how he blame others. "Truth" is, if we do not learn to work together, then we'll all fail seperately.

    Second Venter:

    What's this you say about Pima Countiers wanting to ceceed? You hear something the rest of us missed?

    Third Venter:

    You may have a point there. Or you could monitor campus police at UC Davis or police at most OWS functions.

    Fourth Venter:

    Turns out this season's Black Friday and Siber Monday were record setting. Let's home for more consumerism. Our country's economy is built on consumerism. We all are "material girls!"

    Fifth Venter:

    I may be missing your point. Buying is to giving as giving is to receiving. One must follow the other. Unless of course these transactions involve only one person! Is that what you see?

    Sixth Venter:

    "Bezerkley?" You lost us.

    Seventh Venter:

    Yes, above all else, learn to do something. "Thinking" surely is not one of your strong points!

    Eighth Venter:

    What's wrong? Isn't "turn about" fair play anymore?

    Ninth Venter:

    Last I looked it was Congress who voted in the legislation which had the effect of raising the debt. It still does take two to tango. And there are pleanty of Congressmen standing beside those stimulous projects built in their districts. Plenty of blame to go all around, my friend. Now are you ready to learn to work together on solving problems?

    Tenth Venter:

    Ditto on the prior vents and responses. Too bad vents are annonimous. No way to check if we have many with similar opinions or just one with too much time on his or her hands.

    Eleventh Venter:

    Using logic, one can still lead a horse to water [i.e. rational thinking] but still can't make him drink [i.e. apply logic to hisown particular way of reasoning.] Me thinks thou art a John Wayne "white hat" = good guy, "black hat" = bad guy sort of reasoner. No problem, that makes is easier on your gray matter. But life is not that simply, unless of course you simplify the way you approach it. KISS = "keep is simple st . . . d!" So for your sake, we shall all try!

     
  • Accuracy posted at 12:59 pm on Wed, Nov 30, 2011.

    Accuracy Posts: 1926

    Eighth Venter, Ninth Venter, and the Tenth Venter:
    Concerning Edward F. Murphy’s Letter: "Tea party writers get it wrong"

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    Obama inherited a deficit that he voted for while he was in Congress – and then he, and the Obama Administration, expanded that deficit four-fold.

    Current deficit spending has been, and still is, a big part of the Tea Party anti-spending movement, claiming it will continue to lead to a economic disaster.

     
  • truth posted at 3:42 pm on Wed, Nov 30, 2011.

    truth Posts: 806

    Yes we need to work together, reading the vent I know his is impossible, BLAME BLAME, BLAME. DALE YOU START HOW DO WE FIX HEALTH CARE?

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 9:29 pm on Wed, Nov 30, 2011.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    Certainly,

    Sorry I did not look back earlier to catch this challenge.

    The problem with healthcare, both now, next year and over the last several decades is that it's become too expensive. There are a number of reasons why, each having their own unique set of fixes.

    Medical Malpractice

    First and perhaps least is malpractice suits. This problem was largely ignored by President Obama. Though the cost of malpractice suits as measured by damage awards is small, far less than 1% of total costs, the impacts are enormous. Many doctors pay more for malpractice insurance than they bring home, themselves. OBGYNs pay much more than $120,000 per year. And in order to keep these direct costs down, doctors are incentivized to over-perscribe, acting defensively. This over-prescription is probably the most costly of the three.

    How do we fix it? Simple. Congress with the help of the AMA and other bodies, the NIH, etc. enact a minimum standard for the practice of medicine. Meet that minimum and the doc does not malpriactice. Presently the standard varies from state to state and here in Arizona from county to county! What is not malpractice in Show Low can be malpractice in Scottsdale! Can you believe it? It's crazy!

    Medicaid/Medicare billing

    As a natural offshute of the requirements set by existing government healthcare programs, we see doctors being paid for making the bills look busy, sort of inflating services. Some people specialize in billing. The billing codes are mind boggling. We need to consider paying per patient served, not so much for services rendered. After tort reform, i.e. the establishment of minimum standards, those who would desire a higher standard of care can pay for it. I get a VA Health Care standard of care. It's minimal but it's adequate. And the docs do no billing. Its single payor, government run healthcare. We vets and the Indians get similar services.

    Side shows

    Due to the tendency to over bill and over perscribe, we also see over diagnois and over treatment outside of the office. And doctors invest in such out of office facilities as provide these services, making bucks on both ends, perscribing over diagnosis and providing overdisgnosis in those out of office clinics. Not sure how to prevent this without designing ways to detect these obvious conflicts of interest.

    In short,

    We have one of two ways to go. With the Affordable Healthcare act placing restrictions on the healthcare insurance industry, we have tagged only part of the bull, Where insurance industry overhead, the need to avoid paying for services on grounds of pre-existing conditions thrown out, we should see a decline in overhead. %5 unstead of the current 20% is plenty.

    But we have much further to go. So we either tackle these other issues, highly umpopular issues for the AMA and for pharma, or we retreat and cancel all healthcare programs now in effect. No Medicaid, no Medicare, no Indian Healthcare service, no VA Healthcare, no nothing, and have doctors start making house calls.

    And I did not get on my perscription drug podium. Durgs and malpractice/tort reform were angles Obama did not address, probably because he needed some allies to get as far as he did.

    I'm for single payor or government option. The current system of forcing people to carry insurance is likely going to be ruled unconsitutional. So let's have Romney care, mandate that each state have its own single payer or government option.

    Once we tackle all of the healthcare problems, including our life style problems, we will see affordible universal healthcare at least at a minimum standard. Go to Cuba and see! It works very well there. And one does not need to be communist to have it work well here.

    So, truth, how was that for starters?

    What topic would you like addressed next?

     
  • chatmandu002 posted at 10:47 pm on Wed, Nov 30, 2011.

    chatmandu002 Posts: 1010

    Obama ignores everything. No hope, No change, No transparency and No leadership.

     
  • truth posted at 2:24 pm on Thu, Dec 1, 2011.

    truth Posts: 806

    Dale no statistic no facts, I could explain but would be a wast of time, And some morons will blame liberals. Some facts U.S. cost $7,500.00 a year for insurance, other industrial countries $ 2,500.00. Admistration cost 40 %. Doctors in U.S. extremely crooked you would know this if you had to manage someones affairs with a major illiness.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 10:57 pm on Sat, Dec 3, 2011.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    Gee truth, you want your opposition to give facts, but you are unwilling?

     

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