“I think it is very interesting to see pictures of J.T. Ready and Russell Pearce in the same photos. Would be nice to know just how involved Pearce was with Ready. They both have the same intense interests, immigration.”
“It made me ‘ill’ to read about the Gilbert doctor who’s decided to start charging his patients up to $2,400 to continue seeing him. Cutting his patient load in half means that 50 percent of his patients, who can’t afford his outrageous fees, have now lost their doctor. This boutique doctor is lining his pockets on the backs of his less fortunate patients.”
“Waterboarding is torture, and none of the ridiculous right-wing talking points and lies that (Spencer Anderson) lists can change that. I’m not going to waste my time providing an actual coherent factual argument to counter that absurd rant, but I’d just like to say (shame on you) for giving that moron and his warped little mind a forum to spread his partisan-based lies.”
“If Spencer Anderson (Waterboarding not torture: The Inbox, May 5, 2012) does not consider waterboarding and other so called ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ torture, most signatories to the Geneva Convention do. In the eyes of the world we are now among those countries that torture prisoners. I’m sure the Nazis also had very good rationalizations for their actions. If waterboarding yielded such valuable information, such as the location of Osama bin Laden, why didn’t the Bush administration act upon it?”
“The press says that President Obama has launched his re-election campaign. The truth is Obama has been campaigning and fund-raising for months on the American people’s money.”
“So it’s the dress? Imagine how worked up our military would be if Jan Brewer or Mary Rose Wilcox had shown up with that low cut red dress. Worked up enough to flee to Canada.”
“Romney has been endorsed by Christine O’Donnell, Donald Trump and Michele Bachmann. Just needs one more horseman.”
“Both political parties need to change their mascots. The donkey and elephant must go. Democrats should adopt the hammer and sickle, since they have become no different than Communists. Republicans should adopt a jellyfish as their mascot, since they no longer have a spine.”
“Why is it that year after year after year, Mexican, El Salvadoran, Guatamalan and Honduran legal and illegal students fail to learn English. Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Indian, Russian and Vietnamese students don’t have this problem and their alphabet is completely different. Why have these other racial and ethnic students learned English in one year’s time while many if not most of the Hispanic students struggle year after year. There is only one, no make that two reasons for this failure to learn English: parents who care.”
mrconservative posted at 1:11 pm on Wed, May 9, 2012.
I can't believe there were two vents today about Spencer's letter, calling him a liar. The facts are facts, people. Daniel Pearl and Terry Schiavo were tortured. It doesn't matter that they weren't asked any questions. THEY WERE TORTURED!!!!!!!
The terrorists WEREN'T. And it's an undeniable FACT that enhanced interrrigations led us to find bin Laden. As for the venter's claim that Bush did nothing, that is a big whopper. Bush vowed that he wouln't rest until bin Laden was captured or killed. He did everything in his power to get it done.
One more thing, if Spencer Anderson knew he was being called a moron and a liar(and I'm sure he does), I don't think he'd be very happy with you. Don't be surprised if another letter by him appears in the near future.
truth posted at 2:55 pm on Wed, May 9, 2012.
Why do the Republicans want to call the Democrats the communist party?. The truth is the Republicans are party for corporations. Our corporations exported 8 million jobs to DICTATORS CONTROLLED COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA WHO ARE COMMUNIST. That would make Republicans the communist party.
Arizona Willie posted at 4:42 pm on Wed, May 9, 2012.
mrconservative --- you've been drinking too much Rush kool-aid.
When the military told Bush they were reasonably sure where Bin Lauden was and asked for permission to take him out Bush said " NO " == that is a FACT.
Obama said " yes ".
Bush actually said that he wasn't interested in Bin Lauden ... wasn't worth his time.
Please try to get some REAL facts ... no Limberger " facts ".
Arizona Willie posted at 4:45 pm on Wed, May 9, 2012.
Republicans ( politicians ) talk out of both sides of their mouth. They preach hated for communism but are quite willing to do business with a communist government if they see a dollar in it.
The ONLY thing Republicans care about is wealth. Both wealthy individuals and corporations.
Corporations have no nationality or loyalty to anything but PROFIT.
Abstract01 posted at 8:59 pm on Wed, May 9, 2012.
AZ Willie, Just curious; do you listen to conservative talk radio? If so, does your brain sizzle while you are listening?
I agree with you that Republicans care only about wealth. In addition, I believe that Democrats care only about getting rich--each from exploiting the power of their office.
Just as corporations care only about profits, politicians care only about power. They are completely amoral.
We are fortunate in Arizona that we have a few statesmen (not politicians), but some are retiring.
BTW I think that Romney's fourth horseman ought to be a polo player!!!
mrconservative posted at 10:08 pm on Wed, May 9, 2012.
AZ Willie, I don't listen to Rush. I used to, but now I'm all Hannity. You are an idiot. Bush never said no. Anyone with the IQ of a pencil eraser would have said yes.
Van Jones, one of Obama's former czars, is a communist. Demonrats like you cannot deny that.
Arizona Willie posted at 7:58 am on Thu, May 10, 2012.
mrconservative ... here is a link to a video of Bush saying he wasn't concerned about Bin Lauden.
http://tinyurl.com/3a9q95
In FACT .. the military DID ask Bush for permission to take Bin Lauden out and Bush DID say " no ".
sdjtaz posted at 8:20 am on Thu, May 10, 2012.
Mr. Conservative. Since you don't consider waterboarding to be torture, you would have no problem with it being done to you or your family. The truth is that every civilized nation at one time did consider it to be a form of torture. That is why it and other forms of "enhanced interrogation" are illegal in the Geneva Convention. I strongly suspect that if U.S. troops had been waterboarded, you would be up in arms declaring that the torturers are barbarians.
The really sad thing is that torture, even of this type, rarely leads to any direct leads. Often, the subject of the torture will tell their torturers what they want to hear, whether it is the truth or not. This was why people confessed to sleeping with the devil during the witch trials in England and the US.
By the way, I love your attempt at rewriting history. I guess you missed the part where Bush said that he didn't really think about bin-Laden or the time he stretched a banner stating "Mission Accomplished" without capturing bin-Laden.
chatmandu002 posted at 11:35 am on Thu, May 10, 2012.
Vent #7: Obama already has his four horsemen, Rev Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Sean Penn and Van Jones. An apocalypse for sure. LOL
Vent #9: It really says something when Hispanics that have been in this country for 20-30 years, legally or illegally, and still can't speak English. Do they really want be apart of this country or not? I am for passing the English only law and that all legal and government business must be conducted in English.
sdjtaz posted at 12:42 pm on Thu, May 10, 2012.
Chatmandu,
I'll gladly put up my four horsemen of David and Charles Koch, Anne Coulter, and Ted Nugent that support Flip-flop Romney to yours anytime. I'll guarantee you that most moderates are far more afraid of these four than the ones that you listed.
With regard to "English Only", you tend to forget a couple of things regarding immigration. First generation immigrants (especially older immigrants) rarely have spoken English when they arrived here, and most struggled to learn it once they arrived. This is true whether the immigrant spoke Spanish, German, Italian, Polish, or any other foreign language. That is often why the first generation settled in communities that had many other immigrants from their country. Hence, we have Chinatowns, Little Italy's, etc... The second generation will usually be adept in both languages, and by the third generation, the native language is often dropped and they speak only English.
English only laws would preclude police officers from conducting business in a language that the victim speaks and would be far less effective at gathering evidence that would lead to the capture of a criminal. Additionally, it would also preclude courts from allowing for interpreters, which mean that defendants that don't speak English would receive a less than fair trial. Additionally, it would also preclude many individuals from receiving help in learning English, since they would have to first speak English in order to receive help from government agencies in order to learn English. The list goes on. Overall, it is best to understand the nature of immigration and how individuals best learn to adapt. But understanding these things takes complex thought, not slogans, and I'm not sure that many individuals who believe in slogans are capable of that.
Dale Whiting posted at 3:53 am on Fri, May 11, 2012.
Michelle Bachmann is no longer elibigle to be a horseman. Having taken the oath of office as a US Representative of her adopted home state of Minnesota [she hails from Iowa] while now admitting that she had dual citizenship in Switzerland, we've traded her in this years draft for the Governator!
mrconservative posted at 9:23 am on Sat, May 12, 2012.
I have still yet to hear anyone name alternatives to water boarding. Alternatives that actually work. I'm waiting!!!
Bush did everything he could. He said no because we didn't know for sure where bin Laden was. It takes time to process information. Don't you DARE call Republcians communists. I DESPISE communism. And so should everyone with half a brain.
mrconservative posted at 2:23 pm on Sat, May 12, 2012.
Obama was at one time, anit-gay marriage. So, if Romney is a flip-flopper, then so is Obama. I wouldn't vote for Obama if my life depended on it.
Here's a link for plenty of information on Obama, and what a second term would mean. (hint: the 1930's)
http://www.kfyi.com/pages/mustache.html#ixzz1uVuayqGh