Beyond the 'fiscal cliff,' reasons for optimism

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• Accuracy posted at 10:35 am on Tue, Nov 13, 2012.

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  “Beyond the 'fiscal cliff,' reasons for optimism?” . . . quite the contrary – it has made many investors nervous.

  Especially, President Obama’s (January 1) tax hike on capital gains, dividends, and other investments that’s got people on edge.

  Taxes on capital gains, including profits from stocks, could go from 15% to 25%, and taxes on large dividends at 15% could go up to 43.4%.
  

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• Ateam1 posted at 11:24 am on Tue, Nov 13, 2012.

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  I would like to know how Obama has done anything for the middle class in the past,much less how he will do it in the future.My wife and i both work and have 4 kids.Our tax return has dropped 90 percent since the second year he took office and we are not EVEN close to upper middle class! This man is a liar!!! Keep voting for this trash for soon we working people will all go broke and have nothing.He will keep funding going for lazy ghetto people who wont work.My contributions to any and everything affiliated with this is DONE except for what i must pay in taxes by law!PHOOEY!!!

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• Engaged Voter posted at 11:54 am on Tue, Nov 13, 2012.

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  "lazy ghetto people who wont work"

  Not quite how I'd describe the men and women of our Armed Forces (you know, those lazy deadbeats who pay no Federal tax when deployed for combat, and many of whom get government assistance)...but to each their own. ;)

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• Deddzone posted at 12:46 pm on Tue, Nov 13, 2012.

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  The tax codes are being reset to what they were during the Clinton years---when all paid their fair share.

  Amazing how the rightwing dupped the voters into thinking the rich must be handed special endless tax gifts that the middle class will pay for. Of course, ATeam feels the heat of less $$. The rich aren't paying, so you must.

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• VofReason posted at 1:16 pm on Tue, Nov 13, 2012.

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  So Engaged Voter is identifying the military personnel as the largest group for entitlement largess? That the first I have heard on that one. I may agree though that militry people should probably be paid better than they are. Though that would mean increasing militry spending- any Dems in for that? And these endless tax gifts that Deddzone describes, these must be those dollars that the people earned that they get to keep instead of sending them to the government. Boy, shameless indeed. I mean, we all agree that every dollar that the Government spends is always the most efficuient use of money- right?

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• REG in AZ posted at 2:07 pm on Tue, Nov 13, 2012.

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  Texas wants to secede from the United States of America. Woman runs over her husband because she is upset over his voting apathy. Another hangs the American flag upside down to protest against Obama winning. Trump suggests revolution in protest, as did a Texas judge. We see it in a political movement, initiated, designed and funded by the Koch brothers, that has people screaming and demonstrating with their focus on “more for me for nothing”. We see clergy sold on aggressively pushing their congregations to vote for the Republican / Tea Party based only on limited issues and ignoring the gross dishonesty and self-serving actions of those politicians that have consistently cost the people greatly. We see very extreme, out of control, emotions based only on irrational blame, expressed to the result of people’s own detriment.

  Having a difference of opinion and expressing it is very American but going to these extremes, to advocating this mentality that has become all too prevalent, that is disgusting, actually criminal and anti-American, besides being totally counter-productive, the mentality of “my way or no way”, has really gotten out of hand. We saw it with the congress when right from the start the Republicans said they wouldn’t work with the president and that is what the people have now literally voted against; after having four years of the Republican / Tea Party’s rebellion in irresponsibly putting their political ambitions above all else, arrogantly faulting and stubbornly blocking all efforts, and serving only the interests of “the money”, their strong supporters and masters, the voters have said “that’s enough”.

  This mental cancer can be seen as the sole product of “the money” who selfishly, to feed their insatiable “more” (never enough) appetite, spend their substantial power, influence and money to con the people and manipulate public opinion, without any conscience or real regard for the majority or for anything else. The only way to stop it is for the people to reject it wherever they see it and to refuse to be controlled by it, no matter how aggressively they are pushed or how convincing is the deceptive propaganda, the people need to see reality and stay rational, firmly refusing to be “pawns” for “the money’s” purposes. Otherwise, as we have seen, we will just have a strongly divided America caught up in gridlock and discontent, while accomplishing nothing.

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• azpatriotmom posted at 9:35 pm on Tue, Nov 13, 2012.

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  More government regulations, higher taxes, including those in Obamacare, higher utility costs, higher gas prices... the list is getting worse for the middle class. As businesses get squeezed, they will make cuts- and that means lay offs, which we are already seeing and will see more of. The day after the election- nice timing there- Boeing announced lay-offs, as did several more large employers. Other companies including Papa Johns Pizza and Dardens restaurants are looking at reducing employee hours. People are deluding themselves if they think American businesses, small or large, are simply going to absorb the costs of Obamacare.

  We are heading into a period of greater regulation and greater government interference- and businesses will not respond well. Make it more expensive to do business, and see lay-offs, cutbacks and offshoring as the result. Service industries will simply cut back to part-time workers. Let's see how consumer confidence stands up to this once the pink slips start arriving.

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