The University of Phoenix's student loan default rate for fiscal 2008 was 12.9 percent and accounted for 70 percent of defaults attributed to Arizona. (Cronkite News Service Photo by David Rookhuyzen)
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mesateacher posted at 5:17 pm on Mon, Nov 29, 2010.
Well, Merry Christmas to you 700! I have an idea for you: you need to rebrand yourselves, so enroll at UoP and get a degree that you can get that new job! This is a long time coming, but finally UoP has had its comeuppance. They have some great teachers, some good programs and degrees that are actually quite fine. Unfortunately, while chasing dollars they aldo have lousy students who want a quick, easy education. Let's hope the "university" will toughen its standards, make all of its degrees worthwhile, gain some respectability and give Phoenix something to be really proud of. Oh, and, they need a football team for their stadium. Maybe they can hire the Cardinals - they place about as well as a mediocre college team...
Kathy1 posted at 12:46 pm on Thu, Dec 2, 2010.
Dear mesateacher,
The UoP is the WHOLE problem, not so-called 'lousy students' as you put it. I used to be a student that this school (and I use the word school with great hesitance), I left after battling for months with people in that place who did not care about the fact that test answers had NOTHING to do with the questions being asked. More than once, I was told "You are just going to have to study harder if you want to pass the quizzes". I would explain to them the problem, I even showed those people screen-shots of the questions and answers. Those individuals of UoP just DID NOT CARE!!
yali100 posted at 12:59 pm on Sun, Dec 5, 2010.
A sports stadium does not determine whether or not a university promotes a quality curricula.
U of P is not the typical college model with two semesters and 15 credit-hours per. If that one-size-fits-all model worked for everyone, more students would have earned college degrees. In Arizona, 65% of students drop out from ASU within the first year. Only 54% graduate after six years. Only 34% graduate within four years. College is hard. It's expensive. And it's difficult for many people to pursue a degree, work and raise a family. Hence the development of the U of P model for working adults 23 and over.
U of P people do care. I graduated from the school. They helped me every step of the way. I'm sorry for your unhappy experience.
Did U of P prepare me for my current job? In many ways, yes, in most ways, no. But a similar degree from another university offered the same coursework. At least my courses were taught be people who worked in the "real" world during the daytime, such as Mayo Clinic and Barrows Neurological Institute. I learned from their daily experiences. It was a real eye-opener. What many of my instructors did not know was how to teach. They were not education majors. They did not understand how to impart their wisdom. So, I had to work harder to learn, but I did learn. When I attended a big-time university back east, I was one of 500 students in my classes. The classes were taught by graduate students. At U of P, in my core classes, I was one of only eleven students. I could contact my instructor day or night. If they didn't know the answers, they sought to find them for me.
U of P doesn't fit for everyone. But neither does ASU. The BEST education I ever received, by far, was from Mesa Community College. I earned 60 credit hours from them and I still refer back to what I learned.
The bottom line is you get out of education what you are willing to put into it.
I'm sorry for the 700 employees out of work. How sad for them to be jobless. How sad for you to rejoice in their demise.