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18 comments:

  • Arizona Willie posted at 4:07 pm on Fri, Oct 21, 2011.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1907

    When Lewis's campaign ALLEGED dirty tricks against Pearce it was spread all over the front page.

    But today, when there is a story about TWO state agencies investigating the Lewis campaign for failure to file reports it was buried on page B3.

    Any smear whether true or false against Pearce or Arpaio is on the front page. Any articles that show the charges false are buried in the middle of the paper.

    Lewis's campaign declared they had PROOF that Pearce was behind the Cortez campaign but they have not came forward with one single item of so - called proof.

    I'm betting they will produce more smears just before election when there isn't time for Pearce to prove them wrong.

     
  • Tyler posted at 6:17 pm on Fri, Oct 21, 2011.

    Tyler Posts: 1

    @Arizona Willie: One problem. Those weren't investigations of the Lewis campaign. Those were investigations of some group out of Tempe that had mailed its own letters independent of the Lewis campaign. Get your facts straight.

    Also, I think the Pearce people made Olivia Cortes drop out of the race so they wouldn't have to testify the next day. I believe subpoenas were issued that would have forced members of the Pearce camp to either lie on the witness stand, or admit to their involvement. The attorney trying the case, Tom Ryan, held a press conference and told what proof he had, and invited the attorney general to investigate ....and.... nothing. Oh, wait, the Attorney General Tom Horne endorsed Russell Pearce. Ah.

     
  • Arizona Willie posted at 9:05 am on Sat, Oct 22, 2011.

    Arizona Willie Posts: 1907

    Hmmm ... let's see now ... you claim that Cortez, a naturalized hispanic citizen who filed to run BEFORE anyone knew Lewis was going to run and who opposes Pearce's activities against illegal aliens, is ACTUALLY associated WITH the Pearce campaign.

    But, a committee that has failed to file legally required reports and has sent out 4 mailers in support of Lewis ... IS NOT associated with the Lewis campaign.

    I have some ocean front property just 5 miles outside of Phoenix you'd love to buy ... you can resell it and make a fortune.

    Lewis is so opposed to Pearce that he did not even sign the recall petition. He has never ran for office before. I wonder if he even voted before.

    But he has ALLEGED wrongdoing by Pearce in the Cortez campaign and CLAIMED to have " proof " but has NEVER PRODUCED one single item of the " proof ".

    Why hasn't this " proof " been spread all over the paper and TV just like the allegations?

    You say an attorney held a press conference and told his " proof "?

    Where --- in the basement of his home?

    I never saw a thing about it in the paper or on TV. Must not been much of a story, eh?

    As hard as the Arizona Republic and local media has been trying to bring down Pearce and Arpaio you'd think the smallest piece of evidence would be trumpeted to the high heavens just like they do the allegations.

    No no headlines about any " proof ".

    If you see more CLAIMS of " proof " or " evidence " of collusion between Cortez and Pearce a day or two before the election, the only thing it is " proof " of is another SMEAR job from the Lewis campaign.

    I have repeatedly challenged people on the various forums to provide a MOTIVE as to why Cortez would allow herself to be used by Pearce as a " sham " candidate.

    No one has produced one.

    I'm sure they have had her bank accounts audited looking for infusions of cash.

    Apparently nothing there or they would have it on the front page.

    So why would she allow herself to be used by someone she opposes?

    I also wonder why Lewis --- a non-politician --- who has never been involved in politics ( not even a precinct committeeman ) would suddenly decide to jump into the fray. If he succeeds the other legislators will chew him up and spit him out like a rotten grape. He has no knowledge of how the legislature works or who controls what or, probably, even how a bill is passed.

    Why would anyone vote for someone with no experience for a job that requires a lot of experience?

    Remember this election is about ONE THING and ONE THING ONLY --- ILLEGAL ALIENS and enforcement of the law.

     
  • chatmandu002 posted at 10:36 am on Sat, Oct 22, 2011.

    chatmandu002 Posts: 1005

    I want to know who paid for the recall to start with. The only difference between Sen Pearce and Mr Lewis is the illegal immigration issue. Does that mean the recall was supported and financed by the open border/pro-illegal groups? Was this a sham recall?

    Did you see the AZ Republic article by Daryl M. Williams, Sat 10-22-2011. a Mormon that supports illegal immigration. As a Mormon he doesn't support our laws that could be interpreted as not in compliance with his religion. I thought that our laws were to be enforced for and by everyone without respect to religion.

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 12:59 pm on Sat, Oct 22, 2011.

    Leon Ceniceros Posts: 2536

    "About two dozen hotel owners from across Arizona'....Folks, doesn't that just say everything = this Recall Election is just about ..........1 (one) agenda....getting rid of the "Father of SB 1070, Senator Russell Pearce"

    ....and putting a ..."Utah Compact, Pro-Illegal Alien Amnesty" politician in his seat = Jerry Lewis.

     
  • Rudy111 posted at 2:42 pm on Sat, Oct 22, 2011.

    Rudy111 Posts: 3

    I don't know how peopl can honestly think that Olivia Cortez wasnt a sham candidate. If she really wanted to run, why did she constantyl avoid all contact with the media for the first 2 months of the campaign. Why were Pearce's nieces helping Cortez collect signatures. Why did Cortez not know who paid for her signs. The reason she decided to run is simple. She was a Pearce supporter, and Greg Western told her that a way she could support Pearce is by running and pulling votes away from Lewis. In the first court hearing, the Judge said that Greg Western wasn't credible and said that she wasnt a real candidate, but since she didnt understand everything going on, she could stay on the ballot. The next week, lawyers came up with more evidence showing her connection to the Pearce Camp. So a deal was made that she would step out of the race in exchange for the lawsuit to be dropped. It seems pretty clear from all the evidence that she was a sham.

     
  • phxvato1202 posted at 8:10 am on Sun, Oct 23, 2011.

    phxvato1202 Posts: 123

    @arizonawillie--It's apparent that the common sense in your brain left thru the big bald spot on your head pic on your avatar. In fact it would not surprise me that you are actually Russell Pearce blogging these comments.
    Are you so stupid to comment and print untruths? First of all every article written on the investigations clearly said it was not from the Lewis campaign but from a group against Pearce. Why you can't or won't see that leads any resaonable person to see that you like so many pearce supporters are scared at what might happen to your hero. As for the proof you need to remember that when the proof might have come out that Cortes dropped out thus not needing the court hearing to present further evidence which may have shown that he was involved. It does not even take a clown to figure that his fingerprints were all over this and for someone like you to think otherwise is astounding. But let the blind lead the blind i suppose. Your assertion that it can't be believed that this group is not related to the Lewis campaign is no different than Russell Pearce's own brother and nieces getting signatures to invalidate some of the votes for Lewis. So your logic is flawed because Pearce and his campaign have played the same game and did it before because they are used to being corrupt. The fact that people like you say that Cortes was not a plant say ALOT about the type of person you are. I can see just thru your writings that you are also a bigoted racists like pearce is and you want us to think that we should make Pearce a saint.

     
  • phxvato1202 posted at 8:17 am on Sun, Oct 23, 2011.

    phxvato1202 Posts: 123

    @Leoncisneros-- I am thinking that you must be hispanic based on your screen name and boy have i got some news for you if you are a hispanic. Russell Pearce hates you as much as he hates the mexicans from mexico. Your always defending this guy and to many hispanics you are nothing but a Lambe and properly called out on it. You also say Pearce is the father of SB1070 and yet your not smart enough to know that he did not write the bill but the lawyer from Kansas did and this lawyer has had almost all of the courts rule against his writings of all the bills he has written. You have to be a mormon who is willing to accept corruption and lies from both sides based on your comments today and in the past so that speaks volumes about your character. Again i laugh at the fact that you think pearce cares about any hispanic especially lambes like you.

     
  • Rational Human posted at 11:57 am on Sun, Oct 23, 2011.

    Rational Human Posts: 613

    phxvato1202, do you believe everyone who supports SB1070 is a racist who hates Hispanics and Mexicans? You think it odd that a Hispanic can support Senator Pearce? I support SB1070. I like a lot of people from Hispanic origin both from Mexico and elsewhere. I do not like people who sneak into my country and demand to be catered to. A clear 1/3 of the Hispanic people here in Arizona support and vote for the republican party because they know the unbridled invasion from the south only hurts them economically, and Pearce will see about the same numbers supporting him. You have a typical cholo mentality. I doubt you are even registered to vote.

     
  • samkat posted at 6:56 pm on Sun, Oct 23, 2011.

    samkat Posts: 1163

    Actually rational based on vatos comments in prior posts, he/she is very much biased towards anyone who opposes illegal immigration therefore must be a card carrying member of La Raza. :-)

     
  • Rational Human posted at 8:46 pm on Sun, Oct 23, 2011.

    Rational Human Posts: 613

    samkat, I went back and read some of his partially incoherent thoughts (ESL major in college no doubt) and came up with this jewel. "Most know what and whom the patriots are and what they represent, racism and bigotry pure and simple" The stupidest people I've ever met have said similar things. Most of them are union members and La Raza (The Race) members, and a few other confused lefty socialist types. I'm curious to see how he answers the questions I posed to him. It should prove to be very interesting stuff.

     
  • cacrobert posted at 10:58 am on Tue, Oct 25, 2011.

    cacrobert Posts: 25

    @ArizonaWillie

    If you want to be technical, I filed before Olivia Cortes to run. My campaign committee was formed months before hers, Jerry's, Micheal Kielsky and Tommy Cattey campaigns. I just decided to hold off until January 2012 to run because I did not want to get in the way of drawing votes from Jerry Lewis who I ultimately supported.

    I am Hispanic and any reference that what was going on with the attacks against her are racist are disingenuous at best because I am the one who started the attacks with my letter to the AZ SOS. As a former candidate in 2010 and a possible candidate for 2012 the GOP held me to a different standard so I served up right back.

    Robert Hernandez McDonald Jr. (D-Mesa)
    Mesa 031 PC

     
  • TeaPartyPatriot posted at 6:08 pm on Tue, Oct 25, 2011.

    TeaPartyPatriot Posts: 207

    cacrobert basically admits to being a racist and admits this is about sb1070 in the above statement. Ya Robert, we wouldn't want to take any Hispanic votes away from Lewis would we.

     
  • TeaPartyPatriot posted at 6:09 pm on Tue, Oct 25, 2011.

    TeaPartyPatriot Posts: 207

    Right Robert, that's just the kind of moral backbone we would expect from a Hispanic democrat in this race.

     
  • cacrobert posted at 9:38 pm on Tue, Oct 25, 2011.

    cacrobert Posts: 25

    @TeaPartyPatriot

    How can I be a racist against my own people? You make no sense, do you even read? I am Hispanic too, specifically Mexican American.

    Idiota

     
  • Moderation posted at 2:38 pm on Thu, Oct 27, 2011.

    Moderation Posts: 61

    I am running a straw poll by counting signs in peoples yards. Not the ones posted by the canidates on street corners, just on private property. So far I have a few more for Lewis, but Pearce has been gaining. I am just now at the point where I am sick of getting phone calls and people knocking at my door about supporting either one.

    Who ever wins better get to work on passing some legislation to help bring in new businesses and industries to help boost the local economy or they will lose the seat next election. I don't support parties just results.

     
  • TeaPartyPatriot posted at 7:58 am on Fri, Oct 28, 2011.

    TeaPartyPatriot Posts: 207

    Robert Hernandez McDonald Jr. (D-Mesa), a democratic Hispanic who understands that the best republican is one who is against SB1070. He supports a republican candidate who thinks AZ is now like Alabama during the 60's civil rights era, with lynchings and such. He hates Pearce so much that he chose not to run for the office because it might draw Hispanic voters away from Lewis. If you were Anglo, and all these facts were reversed. you would say this is racist in it's basic form. Yes Robert, you are a racist democrat Hispanic with no moral backbone, IMO. You support La Raza (THE RACE) and amnesty, but if I supported a white advocacy group and were against amnesty, you would label me a racist white supremest. Look closer at your motives and tell yourself you don't want Hispanics to become the dominate race here in AZ.

     
  • Rational Human posted at 6:31 pm on Fri, Oct 28, 2011.

    Rational Human Posts: 613

    Patriot, don't waste your time with that racist. It's not that he's lying to you but that he just can't see himself for who he and his fellow reconquestas are.

     

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