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Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:37 pm

A new state lawmaker is bringing her concealed gun into the Senate despite signs on the doors making the building a weapons-free zone.

And the president of the Senate doesn't intend to do anything about that.

Sen. Lori Klein, R-Anthem, said she has had a gun for years. And when a new law kicked in last year allowing anyone to have a concealed weapon, she began carrying a .380 Ruger in her purse.

"I believe that my responsibility is to protect myself,'' she told Capitol Media Services.

"I'm comfortable carrying,'' Klein continued. "And I had no intention of creating any concern.''

The official policy at the Arizona Senate is that weapons must be surrendered. The Senate provides lockers where they can be secured while people are in the building.

Klein noted, however, there are no metal detectors. And there are no spot checks of visitors.

"Anyone can come into the Senate office building,'' she said. "And frankly if you're somebody that has an intent to harm someone you're not going to stop by the guard and say, 'Here's my weapon.' ''

Senate President Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, who crafted last year's law allowing any adult to carry a concealed weapon, said he is not troubled by Klein's actions.

"The best thing you could do to protect freedom for yourself and others is to have good citizens that are capable of protecting themselves and others,'' he said. "I would never have a policy that restricts members.''

State law prohibits weapons from being carried into public buildings. But the House and Senate are permitted to have their own regulations.

Officially, the Senate is a gun-free zone. But Pearce conceded that its enforcement is pretty much non-existent -- for everyone.

"It's kind of a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy right now,'' he said, with no one challenging visitors to surrender their weapons.

In fact, Pearce said he believes some of the people who are coming into the Senate now probably are carrying guns despite the signs on the doors. And he said he doesn't intend to change that.

"There'll be no metal detectors out front while I'm president of the Senate,'' he said.

Pearce said, though, he is not armed while in the Senate.

Klein said the events of the past weekend back her belief that people being armed is the best protection for the public, saying that if someone with a gun could have taken Jared Loughner out before he killed six and wounded 13 others.

Daniel Scarpinato, spokesman for House Speaker Kirk Adams, R-Mesa, said the policy in that chamber remains that visitors are supposed to surrender their weapons. Like the Senate, however, compliance at most times is more or less voluntary, with no metal detectors at the doors.

The only exception to that in recent memory was during Monday's State of the State address by the governor when Capitol police officers had hand-held wands and checked the purses and backpacks of those entering the building.

Scarpinato said there is "no policy'' regarding lawmakers having weapons. He said, though, that Adams does not carry a gun.

This isn't the first time the issue has come up, at least in the Senate. Karen Johnson, who has since retired, admitted to Capitol Media Services in 2007 she had a .22 caliber eight-shot revolver in her purse.

Tim Bee, then Senate president, conceded the disclosure took him by surprise. But he refused to stop the practice.

"We have members who stay late at night,'' Bee said, including women. "Obviously they feel that carrying their gun with them makes them feel safe.''

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6 comments:

  • EmperorSmith posted at 4:58 pm on Thu, Jan 13, 2011.

    EmperorSmith Posts: 774

    They probably go through a back door since they are special, NOT!

     
  • EmperorSmith posted at 4:55 pm on Thu, Jan 13, 2011.

    EmperorSmith Posts: 774

    if it is against then it is. What would happen if I or you tried to walk in there carrying?

     
  • rrjenn posted at 11:03 am on Thu, Jan 13, 2011.

    rrjenn Posts: 418

    One thing I find disturbing about this article is that they are making it known that anyone can conceal carry into the legislature because they don't use metal detectors and anyone can carry a concealed weapon in. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

     
  • rrjenn posted at 10:58 am on Thu, Jan 13, 2011.

    rrjenn Posts: 418

    Ya David, it would seem there are two sets of laws. One for those who makes the laws, and one for all the nuts that would harm our elected lawmakers. You really have a problem with that? Court rooms are another place we don't want guns. Of course, we do want the bailiff and perhaps even the judge to carry for obvious reasons. I wouldn't have a problem with the DA having one too.

    Cerulean, a semi-auto doesn't put holes in people's heads as fast as you think. He had to take aim for each shot he made. and if several people near him had weapons they could have dispatched him to the nether world before he could have done much damage. As it was, only one man had the means to stop him, and he had to run to stop the shooter. In this case as in most all cases, more guns would have saved lives.

     
  • Cerulean posted at 9:44 pm on Wed, Jan 12, 2011.

    Cerulean Posts: 1385

    Klein said "that if someone with a gun could have taken Jared Loughner out before he killed six and wounded 13 others."

    Ludicrous! This kid (Loughner) had a semi-automatic weapon. He shot 15 rounds into the crowd before anyone knew what hit them. He was *taken down* when it was safest to do so and there were no 'friendly fire' accidents.

    But hey - If this woman wants to carry a gun, the Bill of Rights and the Arizona constitution grant her that ability.

     
  • davidflucier posted at 8:48 pm on Wed, Jan 12, 2011.

    davidflucier Posts: 184

    What happened to the old standby, " What don't you understand about illegal?" Then there is, "The law is the law."

    One might get the feeling that there are two sets of standards for two sets of people.

     
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