Board begins work on immigration training for Arizona officers

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• DataMan posted at 4:42 pm on Wed, May 19, 2010.

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  With AzPOST developing this, why is MCSO paying Kris Kobach (the guy that actually wrote the law) $300/hr to train all of MCSO?

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• forkedlift1 posted at 6:13 pm on Wed, May 19, 2010.

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  Hmm, not one mention of language, accent or dialect as a possible element leading to "reasonable suspicion."

  No mention either of city code "law enforcement officials" and parking meter "law enforcement officials" who enforce "any other law or ordinance of a county, city or town of this state" who will also be in need of training.

  There was a special effort by the crafters of this bill to use the term "law enforcement official" pertaining to "the enforcement of any other law" to distinguish them from "peace officer" which is the term used a number of times later in the bill.

  It is these code "law enforcement officials," not the police, who visit residents at their homes when alleged violations of property upkeep ordinances occur, (e.g., grass too tall, disabled vehicle in driveway, broken fence, etc.) The police (peace officers) are out of the enforcement loop for these ordinance infractions except for very extreme circumstances.

  These city code "law enforcement officials" will also need this training, since it is they who visit residents and enforce these laws. They will need to be apprised of what constitutes "reasonable suspicion" when Spanish speaking Luis Latino or Hector Hispanic opens his door to that "law enforcement official" who is not in the employ of the city's police department.

  The examples given of the "Luis" and "Hector" homes/properties are not drop houses which savvy police handle after being alerted to same. Rather, these not uncommon code enforcement occurrences, at least in my city, are initiated either by the city or a complaining neighbor's call to the city.

  More training and videos needed for cities who employ code and parking meter "law enforcement officers"

  Maybe this will all be over by July 29, if from nothing else, from the economic boycotts or verboten travel to the state that are growing daily.
  I think the latest are from Columbus, Ohio and Seattle.

  
  

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• allamer posted at 6:44 pm on Wed, May 19, 2010.

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  Reasonable suspicion that someone has broken a law is how all law enforcement officers everywhere protect the public on a daily basis. Officers patrolling our streets investigate anything they observe which they recognize as a potential law violation. It is not a new concept. The overdone concern raised about the new Arizona law is not sincere; it is political.

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• forkedlift1 posted at 8:46 am on Thu, May 20, 2010.

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  Good point, DataMan. It deserves an answer.
  Here's the relevant portion of the open ended 10/13/09 signed contract/agreement between Kobach and the law firm representing Arpaio.

  Oct 13, 2009

  "Client shall pay Dr. Kobach a retainer fee of $1,500.00 per month. Dr. Kobach's time will be billed at a rate of $300.00 per hour. Time will be billed in increments of one-tenth of an hour…..The first full retainer of $1,500.00 per month shall begin with the month of October 2009.
  "Client shall also be responsible for advancing any costs incurred by Dr. Kobach, including costs of investigation, telephone expenses, postage, court costs, mileage, travel expenses, hotel costs, and any other necessary costs incurred or advanced by Dr. Kobach on behalf of client."

  Also, a 10/13/10 email from the Maricopa County Attorney's office to a private attorney has as its subject "Kris Kobach -- expert for MCSO" and also states, "The Sheriff's Office is submitting this request."

  http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e14/4599341.0.pdf

  I was appalled at Kobach's misrepresentation of the contents of SB1070, which HE takes credit for writing, which appeared in the 5/10/10 Arizona Republic, "The mind behind SB1070." The lengthy article consists of Kobach's verbatim answers to five specific questions by the Republic.

  All indications are that the Kobach/MCSO agreement is still operative.
  However, the executive order for Arizona POST was to provide enforcement directives for ALL law enforcement agencies of the state.

  It remains to be seen if Arpaio/Hendershott will comply with Arizona POST's recommended enforcement procedures....or if it will be "business as usual" from the MCSO if SB1070 becomes operational.

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