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Ariz. and feds clash again, this time over voter registration

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5 comments:

  • domusrex posted at 1:05 am on Tue, Aug 14, 2012.

    domusrex Posts: 3

    I don't understand how requiring individuals to prove citizenship is an undue burden on the poor/elderly. The fee for a state issued ID in Arizona is only $12, and according to dmv.com "There is no fee for applicants aged 65 years and over, or for recipients of the federal supplemental security income disability payments."

    If citizens aren't responsible enough to possess a state issued ID proving citizenship are they responsible enough to vote?

    I'm not an advocate of disenfranchisement in any way, rather I'm an advocate of people taking care of themselves and not relying on every single government loop hole to function.

     
  • k33j88 posted at 7:06 am on Tue, Aug 14, 2012.

    k33j88 Posts: 607

    Let me understand the facts straight: 1. A resident(illegal or otherwise), can use a federal form without showing proof of citizenship. 2. Federal law preempts state law concerning voter requirements. 3. States are required to provide federal forms, no questions asked. Isn't this a mockery of our most fundamental basic rights of the citizenry? Maybe we should call ourselves the United Federal States of America, since states rights of sovereignty no longer exist. Could this possibly be obamas definition of moving "forward"?

     
  • Engaged Voter posted at 11:25 am on Tue, Aug 14, 2012.

    Engaged Voter Posts: 1070

    “The federal government has no business trying to micromanage what we do"

    Funny how Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne says this when dealing with federal bureaucracy he doesn't like, but when it comes to laws he has personal issues with (MMJ), he bends over for the feds every time.

    What a gutless hypocrite.

     
  • Randall Holmes posted at 2:32 pm on Tue, Aug 14, 2012.

    Randall Holmes Posts: 1

    It's my understanding that the Supreme Court declined to hear the state's appeal of the strike-down of the Arizona proof of citizenship requirement (which means it's over), and that the question of whether it's legal on the state voter registration is still in dispute.
    Arizona Advocacy Network was a primary plaintiff in the lawsuit.
    http://www.azadvocacy.org/press-a-media/press-releases/190-arizona-voter-registration-barrier-falls

    Most middle class Americans who were born in hospitals and have birth certificates, who drive cars and have bank accounts don't realize that there are large numbers of their fellow citizens who don't. We met many people who voted for years in other states, and were shocked to learn that they were disenfranchised when they moved to Arizona.

    Corporate interests who promote the myth of "widespread voter fraud" have been unable to cite more than a handful of examples among millions of votes cast in recent decades. When voter fraud can be found, it turns out to be a voter misrepresenting their place of residence, e.g. Mitt Romney claiming he lived in his son's basement in Massachusetts.
    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud

     
  • ZOO001 posted at 12:46 pm on Wed, Aug 15, 2012.

    ZOO001 Posts: 21

    The ruling striking down Arizona's proof of citizenship came from a 3-judge panel on the Ninth Circuit Court, headed by none other than "visiting" judge Sandra Day O'Connor, with one of the three judges siding with Arizona. O'Connor, suffering from geriatric libtardtosis along with fellow "GLs" John McCain and Jon Kyl, demonstrates the need for a mandatory retirement age for publically elected and appointed officials. These diseased antediluvians can no longer perform their duties under their presumed stance of "conservatives", and should immediately retire or switch political affiliations to the Democratic Party.

     

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