Hundreds gather for a vigil at the Arizona Capitol for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011, in Phoenix. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head Saturday by a gunman who opened fire outside a grocery store during a meeting with voters, killing a federal judge and four others in a rampage that rattled the country and left politicians fearful for their safety. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)
In this photo taken Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2011, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., takes part in a reenactment of her swearing-in, on Capitol Hill in Washington. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011 when an assailant opened fire outside a grocery store during a meeting with constituents, killing at least five people and wounding several others in a rampage that rattled the nation.
This March 2010 photo shows a man identified as Jared L. Loughner at the 2010 Tucson Festival of Books in Tucson, Ariz. The Arizona Daily Star, a festival sponsor, confirmed from their records that the subject's address matches one under investigation by police after a shooting in Tucson that left U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords wounded and at least five others dead. Police say a suspect is in custody, and he was identified by people familiar with the investigation as Jared Loughner, 22, of Tucson. (AP Photo/Arizona Daily Star, Mamta Popat) NO MAGS, NO SALES, MANDATORY CREDIT
People talk at the scene of a shooting involving Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., on Jan. 8, 2011 in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Arizona Daily Star, Dean Knuth) NO MAGS, NO SALES, MANDATORY CREDIT
Emergency personnel use a stretcher to carry a shooting victim to a helicopter outside a shopping center in Tucson, Ariz. on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011 where U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., and others were shot as the congresswoman was meeting with constituents. (AP Photo/KGUN9-TV) MANDATORY CREDIT KGUN9-TV
Emergency personnel work the scene of a shooting that authorities claim involved Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., in Tucson, Ariz., on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011. (AP Photo/Arizona Daily Star, Dean Knuth) NO MAGS, NO SALES, MANDATORY CREDIT
People gather at the scene of a shooting involving Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., on Jan. 8, 2011 in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Arizona Daily Star, Dean Knuth) NO MAGS, NO SALES, MANDATORY CREDIT
FILE - This undated file photo provided by the Office of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, shows Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona's 8th Congressional District. Congressional officials say Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., has been shot in her district. (AP Photo/Office of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, File) NO SALES
Emergency officials work at the scene of a shooting that authorities claim involved Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011, at a Safeway grocery store in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Chris Morrison)
Emergency officials work at the scene of a shooting that authorities claim involved Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011, at a Safeway grocery store in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Chris Morrison)
FILE - In this Jan. 5, 2011 file photo, House Speaker John Boehner reenacts the swearing in of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., on Capitol Hill in Washington. Congressional officials say Giffords has been shot in her district. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh, File)
Emergency personnel gather at the scene of a shooting involving Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011, at a Safeway grocery store in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Chris Morrison)
People gather at the scene of a shooting involving Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011, at a Safeway grocery store in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Chris Morrison)
Emergency workers gather at the scene of a shooting involving Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011, at a Safeway grocery store in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Chris Morrison)
Emergency personnel stand at the scene of a shooting that authorities claim involved Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., in Tucson, Ariz., on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011. (AP Photo/Arizona Daily Star, Dean Knuth) NO MAGS, NO SALES, MANDATORY CREDIT
Flowers and candles are seen placed outside the office of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords after Giffords was shot in the head by a gunman who opened fire outside a grocery store, Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011, in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Chris Morrison)
Gov. Jan Brewer reacts Saturday to the shooting of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
Don Bivens, center, chairman of the Arizona Democratic Party, his wife Trish Refo, and their son Andrew Bivens, 10, join hundreds who gathered for a vigil at the Arizona Capitol for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011, in Phoenix. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head Saturday by a gunman who opened fire outside a grocery store during a meeting with voters, killing a federal judge and four others in a rampage that rattled the country and left politicians fearful for their safety. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)
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Emergency personnel attend to a shooting victim outside a shopping center in Tucson, Ariz. on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011 where U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., and others were shot as the congresswoman was meeting with constituents. (AP Photo/James Palka)
Capt. Chris Nanos of the Pima County Sheriff's Department speaks to the media as Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, left, and FBI Special Agent in Charge Nathan Gray, center, look on at a news conference, Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011, in Tucson, Ariz. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head Saturday by a gunman who opened fire outside a grocery store during a meeting with voters, killing a federal judge and four others in a rampage that rattled the country and left politicians fearful for their safety. (AP Photo/Chris Morrison)
FILE - In this July 28, 2010 file photo, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., speaks during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington. Authorities say that Giffords was shot in the head on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011 while meeting with constituents in her district in the area around Tucson. (AP Photo/Drew Angerer, File)
Matt Richardson lights a candle during a vigil for the victims of a shooting in Arizona, at the steps of Capitol Hill in Washington, on Saturday Jan. 8, 2011. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head Saturday by a gunman who opened fire outside a grocery store during a meeting with voters, killing a federal judge and four others in a rampage. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)
Emergency personnel use a stretcher to carry a shooting victim to a helicopter outside a shopping center in Tucson, Ariz. on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011 where U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., and others were shot as the congresswoman was meeting with constituents. (AP Photo/KGUN9-TV) MANDATORY CREDIT: KGUN9-TV
Emergency personnel use a stretcher to carry a shooting victim outside a shopping center in Tucson, Ariz. on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2011 where U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., and others were shot as the congresswoman was meeting with constituents. (AP Photo/KGUN9-TV) MANDATORY CREDIT KGUN9-TV
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az2008 posted at 2:37 pm on Sat, Jan 8, 2011.
This is like the mid-90s. Rs pandered to the extremist fringe to get elected. Talking about abolishing the Depts. of Interior, Education, Environment. Or, withdrawing from the UN.
As expected, a few kooks felt validated. A federal building was blown up in Oklahoma, and a train derailed near Palo Verde.
For what? Within two years Rs returned to the mainstream. They pushed the extremists away. By the '96 election they didn't want the word "Contract [with America]" mentioned anywhere near them.
It seems like an unproductive way to achieve control. You'd think they'd be a little more sensitive to the nutjobs attracted to their anti-social rhetoric.
EmperorSmith posted at 3:21 pm on Sat, Jan 8, 2011.
He was just a Nonperson
EmperorSmith posted at 3:25 pm on Sat, Jan 8, 2011.
non no capital that might make him important
Slabside posted at 3:48 pm on Sat, Jan 8, 2011.
Bingo6, please seek out some professional mental help. Whenever you post here it's always the hysteric "Bad Republicans" and "Pearce, Arpaio Nazism" manure. No one here subscribes to your insanity.
EmperorSmith posted at 4:14 pm on Sat, Jan 8, 2011.
This is the start of the teens mid 90s are long gone.
az2008 posted at 4:27 pm on Sat, Jan 8, 2011.
Slabside, I support 1070 and amending the 14th to fix the citizenship giveaway to anyone who can make it onto our soil and drop a baby.
But, there's no doubt R pandering to anti-social fringe elements can't be ignored. This stuff happened in 1995 when the NRA referred to the ATF as "jack-booted thugs" and Liddy urged "aim for the head, because they wear bullet-proof vests."
No doubt McVeigh or Laughner aren't representative of 99% of Rs. But, Rs reckless use of rhetoric validates these whack jobs. Makes them feel their doing something heroic. (Remember the guy who tried to shoot a Phx. councilwoman? He was a product of that '93-'96 "Revolution" rhetoric.).
The sad thing is, Rs know this rhetoric is fake. In '95-'96, I watched Limbaugh pushing the radical base away. They were becoming disillusioned with Rs not living up to all the radical rhetoric. (Not abolishing federal departments, withdrawing from the UN, repealing gun control.). They were calling in and griping to Rush about it. He drew a line, calling anyone who believed the anti-government rhetoric was a "kook." He called it his "kook test."
Why do we have to go through this ugly stuff just to get Rs into power? Especially when we know it's just theater?
I don't care how much Rs try to prove this guy wasn't an R. Palin immediately removed from her website a riflescope targeting Gabrielle, saying "It's time to take a stand!"
The rhetoric has consequences.
snipes posted at 5:44 pm on Sat, Jan 8, 2011.
Is this what Sharon Angle means by "Second Amendment Remedies"?
Is this what Sarah Palin means by "Don't retreat ... reload!"?
devils66 posted at 5:57 pm on Sat, Jan 8, 2011.
Bingo6 sounds like a loner pretty much like the idiot that today commited multiple senseless murders.
ElPeneDeCaballo posted at 10:50 pm on Sat, Jan 8, 2011.
We now know the gunman is Leftwing.
Leftist traitors! Stop villifying the Tea Party movement.
The hate is on your side.
Remeber how much you hated and scorned Bush? You can't complain now. You started this.
Leon Ceniceros posted at 12:22 am on Sun, Jan 9, 2011.
This has become yet another "LEFT-WING/LIBERAL" media feeding frenzy. Anderson Cooper, Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are on a plane to Tucson right now. The anti-SB 1070 Pima County Sheriff trashed Arizona in front of the whole World (like Tucson Democrat Congressman Grijalva did when he called for an economic "BOYCOTT" of Arizona). Pima County Sheriff Dumbnik called Arizona the "...mecca for prejudice and bigotry" on National Television. Just when Arizona was having a respite from Grijalva's tourism "BOYCOTT". How many millions of lost tourism dollars and jobs will Pima County Sheriff Dumbnik's unsubstanciated remarks cost our State. Sheriff Dumbnik shot his mouth off to attack the citizens of Arizona who support the "RULE OF LAW" when they voted to approve SB 1070 overwhelmingly. The information that has come out about the shooter paints a sad picture of a young man who was deeply troubled for all of his life. His website complained about the "illiteracy in Congresswoman Gifford's district". He rants about "mind control and brain-washing" and wanting to print a new US currency. But nowhere does he mention the Tea Party, SB 1070, gun-control laws or anti-Hispanic rhetoric.
The citizens of Arizona have nothing to be ashamed of. Every single National Poll has shown a 70% approval rating for SB 1070. Law enforcement officers are sworn to uphold the Laws of the Land and "illegal entry by an alien" is one of those Laws.
Poorman posted at 7:05 am on Sun, Jan 9, 2011.
Very sad for the the people who were hurt or killed,its a shame no one was near enough and carrying a weapon that could have taken this nutso out after he fired the first shot or so.Or if there was they didn't have the__ alls to do it. Now we will probably have every anti gun nut wanting to pass all kinds of laws againist guns etc. No laws will ever prevent this type of attack.
EmperorSmith posted at 1:23 pm on Sun, Jan 9, 2011.
The guy is a nut job flunked out not fit for the army. The world is full of them, that is why we have the right to defend ourselves.