RationalHumanposted at 9:29 pm on Mon, Jul 11, 2011.
Posts: 514
I'm all for responsible gun ownership...uneducated gun owners like Klein only serve to provide fodder for the anti-2nd Amendment lobby...but to suggest she be physically assaulted for it, even in jest?
rationalhuman, slabside is right... you have issues that need professional attention. you seem to seek slabside out in these posts just to initiate a confrontation.
Well, she committed a class 1 misdemeanor under state law. If law enforcement has knowledge of this, which they now do, they do not need Mr. Ruelas to "press charges" or "file a police report" in order to cite her for the violation. Gun rights advocates should be pushing hard for this as a means of showing they promote responsible gun ownership.
And this kinda makes you think: How often does Sen. Klein place her purse on a table somewhere, either in the senate chamber, or the building lobby, or next to her chair in a restaurant, leaving it open to being stolen and used in a crime? This is of increased concern now that the whole world knows she's packin'. I think women should be required to strap their piece to their bodies rather than carry it in some separate container like a purse or briefcase. And if she is so careless as to "inadvertently" violate the first rule of responsible gun ownership, what does she do with her purse when she gets home? Are there children in her house? Does she just toss her purse onto the kitchen counter and start making dinner? That purty pink pistol might look like a fun little toy to a small child. Just sayin'.
Dale Whitingposted at 8:24 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
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Although Klien denied . . . she deliberately pointed a loaded gun at a newspaper reporter during an interview at the state Senate, she did not deny it was loaded, thereby implying that it was!
Klein, in her statement, denied doing anything improper.
In his story, Ruelas related that the gun Klein pulled out has no safety. But he said she told him not to worry.
"I just didn't have my hand on the trigger,'' he reported her saying.
Klein issued a statement saying that was done for the benefit of the photographer who wanted to see the gun and the laser sight -- and that Ruelas sat down in the path of the laser.
The question ought to be "Did Klein have Ruelas' permission to point a loaded gun with lazer sight turned on at him?" We are not tole. But second question is "Is doing so, even inadvertantly, with or without permission, wise? That answer is a big NO. It's like playing chicken with someone else's life. "She didn't know the gun was loaded!"
RationalHumanposted at 10:09 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
Posts: 514
savoy54 wrote: "you have issues that need professional attention. you seem to seek slabside out in these posts just to initiate a confrontation."
Wow, another nut job.
Try learning to read posts...other than this particular article, who seems whom out to initiate confrontations? You have it backwards.
Oh, and notice which one of us invites the other to lick his exrement orifice, then fondles his own genitalia and tells us about it in his comments (the one right after yours).
Fact is that what Lori did was wrong for several reasons. First thing is she shouldn't have let it be known that she carries concealed. Saying so kinda defeats the purpose of concealed carry. Second thing is never pull your gun in a crowd of people to show off to people you have a gun. Very immature act on her part. Third and most important is that you don't ever, EVER point even an unloaded gun at someone. That event could have ended up being a tragedy. DPS should be reconsidering having given a concealed carry permit to her.
Klein should have taken the clip out of the gun, cycled the gun to make sure the chamber was empty, locked the gun in the open position and then pointed the gun at an inaminate onjest to display the laser sight. Ruelas should take a concealed carry class and learn about firearms before doing any kind of a story on them. Can you imagine someone doing a story on something they have no knowledge of? Oh, he works for the Republic. That is normal operating proceedure for them.
Dale Whitingposted at 1:22 pm on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
Posts: 3705
Precisely, commonsenseaintcommon,
All who carry fire arms, concealed or openly in public [including hunters] need to be required to have such classes. Heck, the police have these classes.
When 16, in order to get a hunting license, I had to take a hunter safety class. And a neighborhood acquaintance, who did not have to take that class because he was an adult, actually killed himself in a hunting accident which was caused by his not handling his own rifle safely. He easily could have killed a hunting compantion. His young family had to get on with life without him. He had no life insurance which would cover this sort of incident.
Where people kill people, not guns, uneducated people are much more likely to kill themselves and those close by.
Slabside posted at 8:48 pm on Mon, Jul 11, 2011.
Deliberate or not, Klein should have had the dog p o o d i e slapped out of her for doing such a stupid thing.
RationalHuman posted at 9:29 pm on Mon, Jul 11, 2011.
I'm all for responsible gun ownership...uneducated gun owners like Klein only serve to provide fodder for the anti-2nd Amendment lobby...but to suggest she be physically assaulted for it, even in jest?
Oh wait, this is "lick my brown round" Slabside!
Always disappointed, never surprised. ;)
Slabside posted at 9:47 pm on Mon, Jul 11, 2011.
I'm going to reach down into the front of my trousers and squeeze you by the neck irrational until you squeek.
savoy54 posted at 1:19 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
rationalhuman, slabside is right... you have issues that need professional attention. you seem to seek slabside out in these posts just to initiate a confrontation.
BGDad posted at 4:47 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
Well, she committed a class 1 misdemeanor under state law. If law enforcement has knowledge of this, which they now do, they do not need Mr. Ruelas to "press charges" or "file a police report" in order to cite her for the violation. Gun rights advocates should be pushing hard for this as a means of showing they promote responsible gun ownership.
And this kinda makes you think: How often does Sen. Klein place her purse on a table somewhere, either in the senate chamber, or the building lobby, or next to her chair in a restaurant, leaving it open to being stolen and used in a crime? This is of increased concern now that the whole world knows she's packin'. I think women should be required to strap their piece to their bodies rather than carry it in some separate container like a purse or briefcase. And if she is so careless as to "inadvertently" violate the first rule of responsible gun ownership, what does she do with her purse when she gets home? Are there children in her house? Does she just toss her purse onto the kitchen counter and start making dinner? That purty pink pistol might look like a fun little toy to a small child. Just sayin'.
Dale Whiting posted at 8:24 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
Although Klien denied . . . she deliberately pointed a loaded gun at a newspaper reporter during an interview at the state Senate, she did not deny it was loaded, thereby implying that it was!
Klein, in her statement, denied doing anything improper.
In his story, Ruelas related that the gun Klein pulled out has no safety. But he said she told him not to worry.
"I just didn't have my hand on the trigger,'' he reported her saying.
Klein issued a statement saying that was done for the benefit of the photographer who wanted to see the gun and the laser sight -- and that Ruelas sat down in the path of the laser.
The question ought to be "Did Klein have Ruelas' permission to point a loaded gun with lazer sight turned on at him?" We are not tole. But second question is "Is doing so, even inadvertantly, with or without permission, wise? That answer is a big NO. It's like playing chicken with someone else's life. "She didn't know the gun was loaded!"
RationalHuman posted at 10:09 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
savoy54 wrote:
"you have issues that need professional attention. you seem to seek slabside out in these posts just to initiate a confrontation."
Wow, another nut job.
Try learning to read posts...other than this particular article, who seems whom out to initiate confrontations? You have it backwards.
Oh, and notice which one of us invites the other to lick his exrement orifice, then fondles his own genitalia and tells us about it in his comments (the one right after yours).
Professional help may not be enough!
RationalHuman posted at 10:12 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
Oh and savoy, forgot to add - you're okay with physically assaulting a woman just because you disagree with her?
Because that is what Slabside was advocating, and what you are defending.
Pathetic and ignorant.
Rich posted at 10:58 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
I'm not sure I really mind the idea of someone carrying a gun. After this story, however, I really do mind Lori Klein carrying one.
In_God_We_Trust posted at 10:59 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
Fact is that what Lori did was wrong for several reasons. First thing is she shouldn't have let it be known that she carries concealed. Saying so kinda defeats the purpose of concealed carry. Second thing is never pull your gun in a crowd of people to show off to people you have a gun. Very immature act on her part. Third and most important is that you don't ever, EVER point even an unloaded gun at someone. That event could have ended up being a tragedy. DPS should be reconsidering having given a concealed carry permit to her.
commonsenseaintcommon posted at 12:15 pm on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
Klein should have taken the clip out of the gun, cycled the gun to make sure the chamber was empty, locked the gun in the open position and then pointed the gun at an inaminate onjest to display the laser sight. Ruelas should take a concealed carry class and learn about firearms before doing any kind of a story on them. Can you imagine someone doing a story on something they have no knowledge of? Oh, he works for the Republic. That is normal operating proceedure for them.
Dale Whiting posted at 1:22 pm on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
Precisely, commonsenseaintcommon,
All who carry fire arms, concealed or openly in public [including hunters] need to be required to have such classes. Heck, the police have these classes.
When 16, in order to get a hunting license, I had to take a hunter safety class. And a neighborhood acquaintance, who did not have to take that class because he was an adult, actually killed himself in a hunting accident which was caused by his not handling his own rifle safely. He easily could have killed a hunting compantion. His young family had to get on with life without him. He had no life insurance which would cover this sort of incident.
Where people kill people, not guns, uneducated people are much more likely to kill themselves and those close by.
AmericanPatriot posted at 2:00 pm on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.
Thing is, Lori had to have taken a class before getting her concealed carry permit and still she handled it wrong.