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Activists: White supremacist activity on the rise in Arizona

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33 comments:

  • justiceforvictim posted at 1:12 pm on Sun, Aug 1, 2010.

    justiceforvictim Posts: 3

    Is this really any surprise?

    This immigration debate is being overly politicized across the country by many Hispanics (and others) as a bill of bigotry when it clearly is not!

    Because of this race-card being played, you are naturally going to have the other side push back.

    If Hispanics don't like it, then they need to stop this boycotting and frenzied nonsense and start accepting responsibility for many of their own who DO break our country's laws by entering illegally.

    People need to STOP making this about Hispanics being mistreated or something, when they clearly are NOT!

    This is about following a LAW.

    Why is that so darn hard for some people to understand!

    So, in other words it's more important to protect the rights of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS than of US CITIZENS???

    Think about what you are saying. Don't believe the freaking hype!

     
  • kenny769 posted at 1:57 pm on Sun, Aug 1, 2010.

    kenny769 Posts: 1

    Enough is enough! Legal U.S citizens unite help take the steps to save our country & jobs. Support our cause before illegal immigrant criminals have more rights than us. This is our last stand! Also we must take steps to lower local city and state councilmen salaries too they are all robbing & hurting the people they serve. So please read and sign this online petition. "Petition to Reduce the Wages of Congress Men and Women from $174,000 per year to $50,000 per year at “change.org’. " Copy & Paste below link into your web address bar:

    http://uspoverty.change.org/petitions/view/petition_to_reduce_the_wages_of_congress_men_and_women_from_174000_per_year_to_50000_per_year

    Pass it on!

     
  • ConcernedNaz posted at 2:30 pm on Sun, Aug 1, 2010.

    ConcernedNaz Posts: 12

    ""said he fears violence will erupt in one of the patrols. If a drug cartel came across an armed squad, it could turn into a gun battle that would lead to wider strife, he said.""

    And the down side is???????

    USA, the only country that rewards you if you get past the border guards.

     
  • phoenix39 posted at 4:38 pm on Sun, Aug 1, 2010.

    phoenix39 Posts: 2

    justiceforvictim is correct. The Hispanics and equal rights organizations began this uproar about racism - what in the world did they think, when they opened that can of worms, what was going to happen. All they had to do was shut up. Some of the cops would have checked papers and others wouldn't. It would have died down and the topic of "illegal" would not be on everyone's lips. The Hispanics are being just as racists when they talk about how some are against the "white people" or its the "white people's" fault.

     
  • DataMan posted at 5:30 pm on Sun, Aug 1, 2010.

    DataMan Posts: 160

    Why no mention that this Neo-Nazi clown Ready was also on Russel Pearce's election committee, and was a precinct head with the GOP in Mesa.

    That is, after being dishonorably discharged from the Marines. Twice.


     
  • Slabside posted at 8:40 pm on Sun, Aug 1, 2010.

    Slabside Posts: 1681

    justiceforvictim, you put it in a nutshell. Well done.

     
  • forkedlift1 posted at 11:20 pm on Sun, Aug 1, 2010.

    forkedlift1 Posts: 447

    Phoenix39, your post makes it seem that this all came about yesterday.

    Russell Pearce has had an obsession with Hispanics for a number of years, tried to get similar unconstitutional legislation passed a few years ago, which was rightfully vetoed by Gov. Napolitano (a former U.S. Attorney for Arizona and Arizona Attorney General).

    On top of that there's Arpaio who's been misusing his power and the badge for many years. He originally asserted that illegal immigration was not his job, wanted nothing to do with it, until he saw political gain for himself, and did a 180 degree turnaround the following year. So although he signed up for the 287(g) program, which is authorized by Congress, late last year because his "sweeps" of going into Hispanic communities (for the "low hanging fruit") were apparently in conflict with federal immigration priorities of enforcement, he just became more belligerent still doing what he's always done, with his tough talk for the cameras, etc. SB 1070 was tailor-made for his methods.

    So Pearce's obsession and mouthing off with fabricated "statistics," Arpaio's chronic abuse of power, and now Brewer sounding like the Queen of white supremacist aggressors to endorse an unworkable poorly written law, turning the other cheek and trying to ignore the hate and fear mongering by self-serving politicians was no longer
    an option.

    While the REALLY bad stuff is going on in and from Mexico (which at least Goddard is working on to thwart) the most avid promoters of SB 1070 have to their dubious credit the ability to attract white supremacists like flies to a pile of manure.

     
  • ArizonaRising posted at 12:43 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    ArizonaRising Posts: 47

    Cut the BS. The NAACP, ADL, and SPLC only exist to throw around the 'racism' label when its convenient for them. They couldn't exist without racism - because they ARE racists. In this case, since they have no real arguments to make against AZ's law which is merely upholding the law of the entire nation with respect to immigration, they simply fall back on the race card in a desperate attempt to turn people against Arizona - which is to say - to turn people against upholding law and order within and between nations. This, of course, benefits themselves since they think they are above tha law altogether.

    Interesting, also, that the NAACP is an organization built entirely for the express puropse of advancing a racial agenda. If there were no racism and people were seen by the law as individuals, this organization wouldn't be able to exist. This is, in fact, what the laws of America are - without prejudice.

    So, if racism doesn't really exist outside of fringe elements, what do they do? Hype it up as being 'rampant'! And the media who love to sensationalize to garner ratings jump right on board in the feedinf frenzy. As always, the donations to these destructive organizations will come flooding in.

    What about the ADL? SPLC? Both of these organizations are also run by people with a group agenda of their own. Notice their stance with respect to Israel, which actually IS a racial-religious state where only one group of people can legally immigrate and hold full citizenship. You wont' be seeing them calling that out. Nor do they call out the brutal immigration policies of Mexico and other nations south of the border. I wonder why...

    It's time for the good people of Arizona and America to see through the racial divide and conquer games of these psychopathic, dysfunctional predators.

     
  • michaelm posted at 2:09 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    michaelm Posts: 2

    This guy is an idiot and probably going to get thrown in jail or killed. Where does he get the authority to go out and do this. These guys grew up getting picked on and wanted to be something they will never be. So they dress up and go out and are going to get shot or or arrested for kidnapping

     
  • hoopydreams posted at 5:13 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    hoopydreams Posts: 36

    I say let the Neo-Nazis side with the bill. I think that they should also come out to the public and make commercials supporting this bill and back Jan Brewer in trying to fight this all the way to the Supreme Court. The more it's known these people support and fight for this bill the worse the bill looks, and the more the American public will see what AZ is really like. I believe in following the law of the land, but the government also needs to follow the law of the land, The Constitution. The bill as it was written completely disregarded American rights. Would you really want someone coming to your (white people) door in the middle of the night and raiding your house with no warrant? The way the bill was written before the judge overturned it, this could have happened. Would you (white people) who may be from another country legally now be "illegal" if you didn't carry your immigration papers everywhere in the state? Another country did this too, between world war 1 and world war 2. It was illegal for you not to show your papers, if you didn't off to the camp for you, never to be seen again. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." - Benjamin Franklin Thanks Jan Brewer for sacrificing my liberty.

     
  • Bingo6 posted at 6:42 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    Bingo6 Posts: 238

    So, what's the surprise here, the Arizona GOP is the face of racism and bigotry not only in Arizona but the world.

    Like it or no they chose that path and now it's theirs to deal with.

    If anyone still doubts that all you have to do is read the vitriolic hatred that the East Valley Tribune allows from these morons. The Illegal immigrant issue that the GOP loves so well isn't and has never been about illegals, it is about spreading fear and hate, for all Hispanics, in order to ethnically cleanse Arizona of all Hispanic and minority groups in order to retine their white right to rule, and of course obtain and gain full one party control of our state by the radical extremists that they love so well. Once they've done that then they will begin to eradicate all who disagree with them. J.T. is their grassroots hero and will become their williing enforcer to their warped cause.

    These evil people have turned Arizona into the ugliest state in America and the new face and standard of racial hate for the world to see, and there is nothing that anybody can do about it.

    Welcome to th new state of Aribama.

     
  • AZMomma posted at 7:18 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    AZMomma Posts: 358

    Ready is a Neo-nut. Lots of them around, most just not quite so obvious.
    I worry about him (and his minions) armed and patrolling the border and up here in Pinal County.
    On the other hand, I am also worried about the failure of my own government to make our borders secure; their willingness to genuflect to the Latino bic*hos like Calderon and idiot comments spewing from the mouths of Obama, Holder and Napolitano. The Tillman, LaRata and related racist groups are equally disgusting.
    There are NO alternatives since "comprehensive immigration reform" is a buzz-phrase for opening the doors to the dregs of Latino culture and allowing their racist leaders to throw temper tantrums in the media when they don't get their own way.
    THAT worries me even more.

     
  • SethCold posted at 8:38 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    SethCold Posts: 55

    These idiot, must be put in their place, there is no place for so called supremacist in Arizona, or anywhere else in the USA, they have been hidden alot, but now are coming out of the wood work like bugs, hidden at night, then you turn on the light and they scurry around. They need the light turned on in their little heads, to know we are not wanting their so called ideas.

     
  • mustang_raider posted at 9:36 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    mustang_raider Posts: 1

    Is it legal for these non-sworn-officer loonies to have clothing emblazoned with the word "POLICE" on them? Why in the world is our AZ Government and law enforcement allowing these folks to run around like this?

     
  • forkedlift1 posted at 9:40 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    forkedlift1 Posts: 447

    Quite a treatise, ArizonaRising. You get a C for effort, but an overall F since its based on falsehoods, e.g., "....AZ's law which is merely upholding the law of the entire nation with respect to immigration." Hence, one after the other after the other of faulty conclusions, all building on each other. Maybe you've been gone for the last 5 days, but the federal court with detailed specificity pointed to just a few examples in SB 1070 how Arizona's own immigration law is in total conflict with federal law.

     
  • forkedlift1 posted at 9:50 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    forkedlift1 Posts: 447

    Hang in there, AZMomma. Your post couldn't have been a better reinforcement for all that was said by the previous poster, Bingo6.

     
  • TruthSeeker posted at 11:32 am on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    TruthSeeker Posts: 198

    And no one waves the racist banner more an Obama.

     
  • AZMomma posted at 12:41 pm on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    AZMomma Posts: 358

    Sorry Forked - you have me confused with someone who is against SB1070. I am very much in favor of the Bill, and feel the Feds have now thrown us ALL under the bus in their attempt to placate the Latino racist-vermin.
    I am also against the Neo-nuts like Ready who like to hang a large compensating weapon on his hip and play little-boy War Games.
    There doesn't seem to be many alternatives to Ready, which is a shame. Perhaps (as someone else posted) we can see Ready and his group in a shoot out with a Drug Cartel. Kill them all and let God sort them out.

     
  • Slabside posted at 4:35 pm on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    Slabside Posts: 1681

    These clowns are not breaking any laws so far. If they were, they would be in jail toot sweet. If they want to patrol, let them.

     
  • ArizonaRising posted at 5:33 pm on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    ArizonaRising Posts: 47

    Back in the plantation days, the master would send out his 'free' servants in a desperate attempt to keep the slaves obedient and always looking to the master as an authority of legitimate law. Today, we see this same thing with posters here like forkedlift1 who bow and serve the psychopathic, federal master. As the Pinal County sheriff recently stated, the federal government is, now, an open enemy of the people of this nation. In fact, it is an open enemy of all the peoples of the world.

    Funny how the white liberals who claim to champion the cause of the 'minority' at home overlook the glaring contradiction of their positions - as the federal beast they serve occupies and destroys 'minority' nations around the world. These people are, in fact, the most racist members in the system. They need to keep the 'minorities' poor and as slaves to the master in order to maintain themselves.

    Going further, the fringe white racists as depicted in this article serve the master, too. Since the majority of the population in the US is considered 'white', and this population is now refusing to bow to the slave master, the master and his minions must try to tarnish the image of the revolting slaves.

    What a better way to do this than to pull the race card and send in your assets to try to derail the revolt. JT Ready, the ADL, NAACP, SPLC, and all the rest of these parochial groups are federal assets, plain and simple. They serve no other purpose than to try to maintain the master in his position of authority - and to turn the slaves against one another.

     
  • AZ Native posted at 6:54 pm on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    AZ Native Posts: 45

    Not making a judgement right or wrong- but, honestly, is anyone surprised by this? It was inevitable..it will get worse before it gets better.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 10:35 pm on Mon, Aug 2, 2010.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    "White supremacist activity is on the rise in Arizona" -- EVT, what about "Brown" supremacist activity? Both camps have racists. Funny how EVT only reports it existing in one camp....

     
  • Slabside posted at 12:31 am on Tue, Aug 3, 2010.

    Slabside Posts: 1681

    So true Masterrogue666

     
  • retired03 posted at 4:48 am on Tue, Aug 3, 2010.

    retired03 Posts: 159

    I see by many posts in here that the article is pretty accurate. I read comments that cloak there hate and racism by blaming civil rights organizations as the ones "who started it" That sounds like school yard bravado. I don't particularly like, al sharpton, jesse jackson or oscar tillman, I think they are over the top most times. But, without civil rights organizations, people like this idiot ready and hate groups would run rampant.

     
  • allamer posted at 5:18 pm on Tue, Aug 3, 2010.

    allamer Posts: 160

    After reading this article, I have to wonder if the writer is really concerned about "white supremacist activity". A basic question: Is Mexico being invaded by Americans, or is it the other way around? Organizations? Look in the phone book (or the web) for Hispanic/Latino organizations. Then look for organizations advocating for white Americans. In Congress there is a Hispanic Caucus which is actively seeking "legalization" for illegal aliens. Is that in the interest of our country, or in the interest of sleazy employers and sleazy politicians? Of course, a White Caucus would be politically incorrect. LaRaza, ACLU, et al would go even more nuts than they already have. Oh well. Taxpaying citizens, pay up and shut up.

     
  • exit526 posted at 11:09 am on Thu, Aug 5, 2010.

    exit526 Posts: 33

    You might let your issues with Pearce settle a little. Don't forget the new sheriff in town. Boom-Boom Babeu. He and his PIO underling Gaffney are shilling some of the most extreme on the right. Here they are asking for donations on an interesting group's site:http://theregulatorsvigilancecommittee.ning.com/profiles/blogs/please-contribute-to-the-pinal?xg_source=activity
    What fuels creatures like JT Ready? Dramatic overstatements by the inviters of national fame: Boom-Boom and Timmy G.

     
  • forkedlift1 posted at 12:56 pm on Thu, Aug 5, 2010.

    forkedlift1 Posts: 447

    Yes, exit526, not only is it apparent that Babeau has self-serving political ambitions, but much of the hate propaganda that's coming out of his mouth is downright scary. His denials about knowing the background or philosophy of those two radio talk shows he was on were also instructive.

     
  • samkat posted at 5:59 pm on Thu, Aug 5, 2010.

    samkat Posts: 1164

    the posts are interesting to say the least. Fork needs a position on the Supreme Court since he is an authority. Now, if all of our so called civil rights advocates were as energetic in seeking ways to stem the illegal immigration invasion as they are to condemn everyone who expresses their concern about ti, we might have some common middle ground. Calling concerned citizens racists because they are tired of being put down is not going to resolve anything.

    By the way, in the for what is is worth column, the ACLU and SPLC scare the dickens out of me. The SPLC seems to have a domestic spy unit doing the work of law enforcement. Where are our civil rights when these yahoos are spying on American citizens without benefit of a court approved warrant? Then they have the audacity to label anyone they please a racist or terrorist.

    Now, if you really want to identify a racist organization, start with the NAACP, LULAC, MALDEF, Congressional Black Caucus, Congressional Hispanic Caucus, etc. Name one Anglo organization. If we even dared start one, these very same groups would be screaming racist at the top of their lungs. Just a couple of months ago, President Obama gave a commencement speech at a PREDOMINANT Black College. I thought the desegregation laws outlawed segregrated educational institutions. I suppose it only applies in one direction though. I think the tide is turning and Anglos are beginning to speak up for their civil rights as well.

     
  • loubator posted at 11:22 am on Sat, Aug 7, 2010.

    loubator Posts: 95

    wow! i have been dealing with and listening to latino racists for years, and yet there is nothing about them. I don't necessarily agree with any racists, but it is ok with me that whitey has someone to stick up for him. why is it ok for mexicans to wave the mexican flag at rallys, but not ok for u.s. flag t-shirts to be worn at a school in texas? i'm locked and loaded and ready to go. rock on.

     
  • Slabside posted at 2:31 pm on Sat, Aug 7, 2010.

    Slabside Posts: 1681

    Uh rah loubator!

     
  • Dinosr posted at 4:32 pm on Sun, Aug 8, 2010.

    Dinosr Posts: 16

    How many ways is there to spell invasion?

    If any other country in the world was being
    invaded and cried Help, we would send money,
    troops and weapons. If we could afford it or not.
    What happens if the ones paying for all this
    free help needs Help? The best we can hope for
    is to be forgiven for our insulting request.
    Az. has finally had enough and is trying to help
    its self. Just maybe She can shame the other
    States into a little thought. When they help us
    they are helping U.S.

    Unlike most war mongers, we don't want to hurt
    anyone. Just go thru the gates we provide, do it
    right.
    QUIT sneaking across our borders.
    That is invading, an Act of War.
    If we had a grovenment worth a breath of air,
    they would stop " passing the Buck."
    HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP SEND HELP.

     
  • Slabside posted at 11:38 am on Mon, Aug 9, 2010.

    Slabside Posts: 1681

    If these dudes want to risk their lives to secure a border that the federal government refuses to do, so be it. I will side with these guys a lot quicker than I will side with blood thirsty drug smugglers that have killed Americans with out a second thought on our soil.

     
  • jrzees1942 posted at 11:09 am on Wed, Aug 11, 2010.

    jrzees1942 Posts: 4

    What gives this person or any private group the right to stop anyone? He is not a federal, state,county,or city law enforcement officer.
    His group hasn't been sworn in by any legal law enforcement organization to act in such capacity. He should be charged with kidnapping
    .
    Don't get me wrong I am against ALL ILLEGALS no matter what part of the world they are from!

    FYI, I read an article last year, where the US helped train (Ranger and Green Barrett training) about 1500 Mexican Army personnel to help in the fight against the DRUG CARTELS, about 90 % of them left the Mexican Army because the DRUG CARTELS offered to pay them more MONEY. Now this persons are using their training to train more people. Does Mr. Ready have this type of training?

    The USA is not the only country that rewards illegals. Right now there are about 77 AWOL Afghans from the US Army living in CANADA. We brought them over to train them, gave them $1500.00 a month, housed, fed, ect...ect...

     

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